Pat at 10 for Sharks

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 24 Jul 2014 at 10:10
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Pat Lambie has been named to start at flyhalf for the Sharks against the Crusaders in their Vodacom Super Rugby semi-final on Saturday.

Lambie’s inclusion at pivot prompts a shift for three other players in the backline, with Frans Steyn (10 to 12), Paul Jordaan (12 to 13) and JP Pietersen (13 to 14) all moving one position out. SP Marais, Lwazi Mvovo and (perhaps surprisingly) Cobus Reinach will wear the same jerseys they did last week.

S’bura Sithole is the unlucky man to lose out on a starting spot this week, but will provide plenty of pace off the bench along with another speed merchant in Tonderai Chavanga.

Up front, Thomas du Toit has been retained at loose head, with Willem Alberts moving from blind side flank to lock in place of the injured Anton Bresler. His partner will be Stephan Lewies, who returns from injury to take over from Etienne Oosthuizen in the number 5 jersey.

Jean Deysel starts at blind side flank in the final change to the team.

Cell C Sharks

15. SP Marais
14. JP Pietersen
13. Paul Jordaan
12. Francois Steyn
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Pat Lambie
9. Cobus Reinach
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Jean Deysel
6. Marcell Coetzee
5. Stephan Lewies
4. Willem Alberts
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Captain)
1. Thomas du Toit

16. Kyle Cooper
17. Dale Chadwick
18. Lourens Adriaanse
19. Etienne Oosthuizen
20. Tera Mtembu
21. Charl McLeod
22. S’bura Sithole
23. Tonderai Chavhanga


  • I feel a bit more confident now, was hoping however for Steyn or Mvovo to play FB as SP is very erratic

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.07.14 10:13:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Good that Du toit is growing and that white is affording him more time.

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.07.14 10:13:23 by Dunx Reply

  • Also Reinach needs to be sharper this weekend, he cannot afford the mistakes he made last weekend

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.07.14 10:13:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 1) : I liked the way Oosthuizen played last week, pity he is on the bench

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.07.14 10:14:04 by Dunx Reply

  • EISH! 😈

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.07.14 10:14:49 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • I have a feeling McLeod will run on.

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.07.14 10:15:39 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Good team, everything as expected of course. I am happy and i believe this is a match winning team this, We are also going to rely heavily on the bench later in the match to clinch victory for us and they look adequate enough. Two more days and counting. EISH VIBY. Kani wag ie

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.07.14 10:15:56 by Stiko85 Reply

  • I don’t like Alberts at 4. Or maybe its that I don’t like Deysel starting at 7.
    He always seems to have more of a barn storming impact coming on against tired legs.
    But I can see why Jakes done it.

    Good side though.

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.07.14 10:20:04 by John Galt Reply

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  • Please no cards this game ouens!

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.07.14 10:21:15 by R Hayward Reply

  • @Dunx (Comment 2) :
    Very much so.
    He’s going to have a wholly different experience against Owen Franks though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.07.14 10:22:29 by John Galt Reply

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  • Not sure why Alberts is at 4 instead of Oosthuizen.

    Surprised that Reinach starts ahead of McLeod…though McLeod also has the tendency to suck when he starts, and generally plays better when he plays from the bench.

    Glad JP is back at wing. He should do quite well after his stint at 13….playing 13 seems to sharpen him up for wing.

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.07.14 10:24:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Boys and girls :mrgreen: lets just support big time now, this is a very good team and Mr calm SIR PAT is back :mrgreen: πŸ˜†

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.07.14 10:24:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Brave move starting Lambie after such a long lay-off, let’s hope it works.

    It reminds me of 2012 when Lambie was selected at 15 for the final after being injured and he didn’t have a great game…..mind you nobody had a great game that day.

    Great team. Let’s hope for the best.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.07.14 10:25:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 8) : Maybe JW is hoping for another early red for Deysel….seems to do wonders for the Sharks 😈

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.07.14 10:26:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Surprised that Reinach is starting. Hopefully he can sharpen up this week.

    I would also rather have fitted Sithole into the starting team (e.g. Mvovo or Steyn at 15) than accommodate SP who was pretty shaky last weekend.

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.07.14 10:31:32 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 15) : 😈 Why you saying exactly what I did?? :mrgreen: πŸ˜†

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.07.14 10:32:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Lambie!


  • Comment 17, posted at 24.07.14 10:32:42 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 17) : Said in one word huh πŸ˜†

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.07.14 10:33:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I agree on SP, I’m quite surprised JW stuck with him.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.07.14 10:33:42 by Letgo Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 16) : Just summing up your two posts in one πŸ˜›

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.07.14 10:34:06 by Bokhoring Reply
  • To bad on Sithole, but what a replacement to have.

    This is a strong team, we’ve given ourselves the best chance possible to beat the Crusaders again. Now we just need to deliver our best on Saturday.

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.07.14 10:34:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) : πŸ˜€

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.07.14 10:35:38 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : One minor difference from the 2012 team…..the entire management and coaching staff has been replaced by a wc winning captain and a wc winning coach and new support staff. πŸ˜€

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.07.14 10:36:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) :

    I’m really glad he’s back! He makes a massive difference to the team. I don’t think non-sharks supporters understands how valuable Lambie is to a team.

    He does more than just pass or kick or even run the ball. He’s our marshal and the Sharks look completely different with him there.

    Maybe one day ‘other coaches’ and supporters will realise this.

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.07.14 10:37:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • Hopefully the Crusaders forwards go out to niggle Deysel and forget about playing the ball.

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.07.14 10:38:59 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) :

    the problem is that they replaced an inform Ludik with a player that does his best work at flyhalf. I would have started Lambie at 10 for that game, no matter how good Freddie’s (the Frenchman’s) form was perceived to be at that stage or, like I said back then, Lambie should have been on the bench.

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.07.14 10:40:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • It’s good to see Jake sticking to the approach he’s been using all season. A certain other Sharks coach may have been tempted to tinker too much at this stage when it’s probably best to err on the side of caution for play-offs. Also means we have a great bench at our disposal. Go Sharks!

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.07.14 10:41:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 25) : Hopefully the official is calling those off the ball playing. It seems that NZ always get away with those tactics. Just like the highlanders did.

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.07.14 10:41:49 by Dunx Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : Agree 100%

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.07.14 10:42:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : @Letgo (Comment 26) :

    Major difference this year being, that Lambie is replacing a center at flyhalf, who, while he has done a job for the Sharks, has been no more than solid in this position all season.

    It might be a brave move, but I think it is the right one.

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.07.14 10:42:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : Agreed, he adds a lot of composure to the equation.

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.07.14 10:43:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Perfect

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.07.14 10:44:03 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Dunx (Comment 28) :

    I think Deysels red card in the previous game against Crusaders would have helped with this matter.

    i don’t think any ref would want that incident to repeat itself on their watch.

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.07.14 10:45:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : I agree, but FS really did a sterling job there. I must add. in the beginning I was very worried about him playing there, but he did prove me wrong in that he does have the talent to actually be a very good no10. that said, I am glad he is back at 12 and Lambo at 10. I like the backline the way it is now. I hope Frans gives Dan some food for thought 😈

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.07.14 10:46:40 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Dunx (Comment 28) : After that Deysel incident they did seem to start watching it closely. Penalties for those kinds of transgressions have dropped over the past few games, so either the players are doing it less or the refs are ignoring it again.

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.07.14 10:47:29 by rhineshark Reply
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  • For us to win, Reinach needs to do the following:
    Get hurt in the first 10 seconds, and let McLeod play the rest of the game, Haha, only joking.
    No please Mr Reinach, please pressure Ellis big time, and make sure your passing game is on and that you are at every ruck and maul asap.
    That’s all I am asking. Oh and in the last ten seconds make sure you score the winning try by doing that individual stuff you do πŸ˜€

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.07.14 10:51:48 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 35) :

    Or a little of both.

    I’ve seen incidents gone unnoticed, but hopefully the Sharks have made a point of mentioning this issue to the ref again.

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.07.14 10:56:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 36) :

    The thing I really like about Reinach starting is the fact that I really believe McLeod will be better in the last 20 minutes. The pace and enthusiasm he injected into our game only for the last 10 min or so against the Highlanders were key. We might need him to do the same again.

    Really hoping that Reinach has one of his better games though, he can be devastating if he keeps his focus.

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.07.14 10:58:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 36) : Reinach should simply concentrate on giving Lambie crisp service.

    On defense, as you say, put Ellis under constant and uncompromising pressure.

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.07.14 11:08:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 38) : I see your point. However, at what cost?
    My honesty in asking, do you also believe our outside backs will operate the same the whole game as when M is on the field? So in asking that, do you think we are winning or losing as a whole by not playing him?

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.07.14 11:09:52 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 39) : And where possible leave the kicking game to Lambie. When he does do his box kick, he really need to be more accurate.

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.07.14 11:10:47 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 41) : Reinach and the coaches needs to realise that we should be playing off of 10, and not 9.

    Reinach is capable of giving fast crisp service to Lambie, but he’s incapable of making quick decisions and execute them accurately.

    Leave the brain work to Lambie, Reinach needs to view himself as Lambie’s P.A.

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.07.14 11:15:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • IMO Reinach needs to be a pest to the Saders loosies. If he sees a gap he must not hesitate. Gotta keep Todd, McCaw and Reid guessing else they can simply make a B line direct to Lambie, shut him down and try get turnover ball which will be key for the Saders.

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.07.14 11:25:01 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 40) :

    I think the way the Sharks play, a little slower at the start of the game, also has a lot to do with our game plan, not just the way Reinach played. I looked at the Highlanders game again – there were a few missteps from Reinach, I would say just in decision making, but it seem that the team played a slower more calculated game when he was on, not because of Reinach – this was the gameplan. When Charl was on, and just before that, we made a decision to up the tempo and Charl happened to be the perfect guy for this style of play.

    I don’t think the Sharks will play the way we did in those last minutes for the entire game. Much of the decision making will fall on Lambie and be taken away from the scrummie. Reinach’s passing is accurate and crisp, his decision making, I would assume because of experience, isn’t always as good as Charl’s.

    I don’t think bringing Charl on for the first 60min would have made a big impact on how we would have approached this game. We will play a calculated, more structured game, play them of their feet – by the time Charl comes on, he will produce the speed of delivery, which maybe he is best at of all, once opposition legs have tired. Just like the Highlanders game.

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.07.14 11:34:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • Happy with all those changes – except would prefer McLeod to start instead of Reinach.

    Overall a team that can certainly cause the necessary upset if the desire and accuracy are there on the day, c’mon boys.

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.07.14 11:35:17 by stevovo Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 43) : That’s is the one place where Reinach should follow his instinct…those sniping runs of his are quite effective.

  • Comment 46, posted at 24.07.14 11:36:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) :

    Yes, he has the skill, but still lack the decision making, especially under pressure, when there is less time on the ball, but I would think this is due to a lack of experience and even this part of his game should improve with time.

    For now, take the pressure of him. Tell him to give crisp service to his fast thinking, cool under pressure, flyhalf.

    It’s a good match and I still believe Charl is better suited to the Sharks’ game in the final minutes, when we tend to up the tempo.

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.07.14 11:37:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 44) : I think you’re correct regarding the final 20 being played at fast pace.

    JW knows his team has the fitness to outlast any team, and thus breaking the game open when the opposition is tired is a very smart tactic.

    Just not so good for our nerves.

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.07.14 11:40:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 47) : Well one thing is for sure, we both differ in our opinions yet we both agree on the final outcome πŸ˜€

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.07.14 11:41:15 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 46) :

    For sure.

    JW stuck with his players. SP also got another chance, while I thought his been struggling and we may have benefited from 15 Mvovo, and give Sithole a place on the wing.

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.07.14 11:41:29 by Letgo Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 48) : My only worry is, all NZ teams love pace / open play in the last 20. I am not sure if that tactic will work against such a experienced team.
    Look at how the Sader smothered the highlanders two weeks ago, it was a typical Sharks type game. Pressure the first half and second half start to open up the game.
    Are we playing into their hand by doing this? I know it worked last week, but will it work again?

  • Comment 51, posted at 24.07.14 11:44:00 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 49) :

    I’m not saying Charl haven’t been great for us for full matches though, just thinking that if I had to choose who to use in the last 20 minutes (with the way the Sharks tend to play out games at a higher tempo), I would prefer Charl for the last 20, because I don’t think Reinach’s speed to the breakdown and instinct when the ball will become available, is as good as McLeod’s. In fact, when we play like that, McLeod looks at his best, and one of the best.

    I would love to say play like that the entire 80, but I just don’t think we’ll be able to maintain that tempo and accuracy for an extended period.

  • Comment 52, posted at 24.07.14 11:47:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 51) :

    I suppose, we’ll have to wait and see. Nothing will come as easy as it did against the Highlanders, including tries for the Crusaders.

    Although they are strong at the front and at the back, they still play a structured game, I don’t expect them to throw the ball around nearly as much as the Highlanders did.

  • Comment 53, posted at 24.07.14 11:50:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 51) : Suppose we’ll need to trust JW’s ability to make the correct tactical adjustments to counter the Crusaders…if any coach has the ability to do this, it’s JW.

  • Comment 54, posted at 24.07.14 11:54:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • I hope Deysel rips that idiots head off this time as payback. Maybe he must do it early in the match again :mrgreen: seems like we play our best rugga when down a man or two

  • Comment 55, posted at 24.07.14 11:56:21 by KingRiaan Reply

  • Not too many surprises here if we think about it. JW wants his best players to play as much of this game as possible whilst still leaving a little in reserve. So hence Lambie/Steyn start together. Same goes for Alberts and Deysel. Chadwick and Adriaanse have made a good combo off the bench late on so he has kept that as well as pace in the form of Mthembu and Sithole and Chavanga. As with all New Zealand sides though…if you cant match them up front you arent gonna win.

  • Comment 56, posted at 24.07.14 11:58:04 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 53) : Also, Dagg and co at the back are no Smith, so I can’t see too many of those counter tries happening.

  • Comment 57, posted at 24.07.14 11:58:04 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 55) :

    Crusaders have an entirely different loose trio starting than the last game, Deysel may get a chance later in the game, but I really hope we keep up the aggression like after that red, but keep the game clean.

  • Comment 58, posted at 24.07.14 11:59:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 58) : Oh ja, Kieran and the-worlds-best-cheater-ever-Mcaw is starting.

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.07.14 12:00:43 by KingRiaan Reply

  • The two duels I am most looking forward to is Coetzee vs McCaw and young Tom against Franks

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.07.14 12:03:56 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 60) :

    This will be a great game.

    I know the sharks will be up against it, but I will remain hopeful.

    What a great rugby match to be a part of though. Plenty of internationals involved for both sides. Should be a good game. I’m really looking forward to it.

    And still deep down believe that the Sharks can pull this one of.

    Can’t wait!

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.07.14 12:10:24 by Letgo Reply
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  • JW is just trying to mess the Crusaders thinking with naming Willem at 4,Oosthizen will start and Willem to 7 with Jean dropping to the bench and yeah Reinach is key because the Crusaders will be throwing the ball around alot and mistakes will happen with that try coming for the 9

  • Comment 62, posted at 24.07.14 12:11:13 by Chippa Reply

  • @Chippa (Comment 62) : lol

  • Comment 63, posted at 24.07.14 12:15:47 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • I think that we can have a confidence in this team. They just seem to have an air of calmness about them. Even last week when down, they did not panic, it is almost as if they refuse to believe that they will lose. Let us hope and trust that will again be the case this weekend.

  • Comment 64, posted at 24.07.14 12:18:07 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 37) : The highlanders got at lease 1 try from taking a tackler out off the ball. There were other incidents as well overlooked. Lots of crossing taking players past the ruck the usual. It was almost as if it was back to normal. But peyper on the sideline was shocking he allowed lots as well.

  • Comment 65, posted at 24.07.14 12:19:03 by Dunx Reply

  • @Dunx (Comment 65) : I don’t know how you can be shocked by anything Peyper does, or rather doesn’t do. For me one of the most useless and biased refs at the moment.

  • Comment 66, posted at 24.07.14 12:22:05 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : Any specific coach you have in mind? 😈

  • Comment 67, posted at 24.07.14 12:23:02 by HeinF Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : Funny thing is I feel M also makes the Sharks look like a completely diff team.

  • Comment 68, posted at 24.07.14 12:42:12 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Very happy with this team, especially with lambie starting at 10. While Frans has done a sterling job for us, it has to be acknowledged that he has battled to get his backline going. I really hope that Lambie can shine with Reinach’s poor pass, I think he looks much better outside Charl. It is true that Charl plays out of his socks when he comes on as a sub, but please JW, don’t wait for the 70th minute before you bring him on, he needs at least 20 minutes to make a real difference.

    Glad JW stuck with SP at 15, admittedly he was not great last weekend, but before that he has been a rock at the back.

  • Comment 69, posted at 24.07.14 12:57:12 by jonnow Reply

  • This is a very good team!! Some seriously talented players in that match 23. Go Sharks!!!!!!!

  • Comment 70, posted at 24.07.14 13:23:52 by JD Reply
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  • Crusaders to score 2 tries because of steyn’s missed tackles. That guy just cant tackle anymore and we are gonna suffer for it.

  • Comment 71, posted at 24.07.14 14:18:28 by Poisy Reply
  • Can’t wait for Saturday,feeling calm about the selections,glad SP is playing,I mean that touch finder was sublime even though Steyn was calling for the drop 😈 Feel McLeod will add more value in the last 20 than in the first 60 when the game is still tight,thats where Reinach will be dangerous!Cant wait for Chavanga and Sithole to come on…..and I saved the best for last!
    All hail King Lambieghini!!

  • Comment 72, posted at 24.07.14 14:43:12 by BarendL Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 66) : Which is sad, i dont understand why RSA refs think they are doing. Most often than not being as bias along with the Kiwi’s and aussies.

  • Comment 73, posted at 24.07.14 14:44:19 by Dunx Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : For me Alberts at 4 is the biggest surprise! Oosthuizen has had really good games this year and was great against the Crusaders earlier in the season. But all in all I’m pretty happy! Let’s doooooo eet!!!

  • Comment 74, posted at 24.07.14 14:44:37 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : No,no…Lambie is worth at least 6 words!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 24.07.14 14:46:33 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 31) : I’m with you guys on that…

  • Comment 76, posted at 24.07.14 14:49:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 71) : I’m envisioning Frans tackling like he did at Newlands in last year’s CC final! Man, he crunched them!! That would be great to see…

  • Comment 77, posted at 24.07.14 14:58:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 77) : stating the obvouse. W.p are not crusaders

  • Comment 78, posted at 24.07.14 16:15:23 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 71) : He has missed a lot of tackles this season, but it may be to do with him carrying that injured knee. Frans is a big guy and probably not as fast changing direction anymore, but an injured knee makes it even more difficult.

  • Comment 79, posted at 24.07.14 17:23:10 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 78) : I get that…and it’s been a worry this year – Frans is way too high on the season missed tackle stats! But I was just sharing what I envision in my mind’s eye…and it WOULD be really nice to see!! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 80, posted at 24.07.14 17:29:30 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Well Guys lets be positive :

    1 We have the Best Coach since . . well I can`t think of anyone better right now, unless Eddie Jones rocked up as technical assistant that might strengthen us . . .
    2 Yes we have a couple of serious injury concerns, but overall we probably have The Best team since the glory days of Honiball and Jeremy Thompson!
    3 The ” Ratio Decidendi ” : We got a result at Christchurch This Very Same Year already! What`s changed? We have even more to play for now, they have DC back but we`ll have 15 men, er to start with at least!

    Lets Just Do This! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.07.14 19:04:45 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 81) : I’ve said this before…but…I like the way you think!!

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.07.14 19:08:40 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Good starting line up – we can do this!!! #GOSAAAAKS :mrgreen:

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