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Loftus player ratings


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 2 Mar 2015 at 13:20
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This is a toughie, folks. The Sharks played pretty well in patches at Loftus – in fact, probably well enough to have won had they taken all their opportunities.

They didn’t win, though and while there’s rightly a lot of anger being directed at the match officials, the team would be doing themselves – and their fans – a disservice if they didn’t take a hard look at themselves and some of their own actions during the game.

In that spirit, let’s try to do something of a fair analysis of the team, without being unnecessarily harsh, but also, without ignoring any of the issues that we saw.

The stand outs

A few players really stood up for me, and non more so than Pieter-Steph du Toit. Apart from a line-out wobble or two, the young man was truly immense and while opposite number Victor Matfield may have enjoyed some supremacy in one area, Steph completely eclipsed him in all others. Apart from the amazing defensive exploits of Bulls man Lappies Labuschagne, I’d say du Toit was the most impressive forward on the field.

The others who were, for me, really good, were Renaldo Bothma, who continues to show what a wonderful player he is, Pat Lambie and SP Marais. SP has come in for a lot of criticism but, to me, really stood up and showed his detractors the middle finger at Loftus. Pat was guilty of one or two passages of hasty play, in no small part caused by the poor ball he received, but was otherwise the composite match-winner (or almost match-winner) and his 25 points, including no missed kicks, were worthy of a high rating all on their own.

Above average

The bulk of the team put in pretty decent performances on the day – we’ll call out Marcell Coetzee and Ryan Kankowski, both of whom were good amongst the forwards. Coetzee was perhaps just 5% off his game on the day, which makes a big difference to the team since he’s such a vital player. Pinged unfairly a few times early on, you could see that the referee started to get to him and he did let his own discipline slip a little. Maturity will come and he’ll do better the next time he’s in such a situation.

Odwa Ndungane, to me, was the back most worthy of praise, since he was involved in so much of what was good for the Sharks (unfortunate knock on aside).

Improvement needed

There are a few players from whom I would like to see improvement next week. Bismarck du Plessis, I feel, didn’t do his reputation justice and needs to look in the mirror this week. The team needs their captain to be the strong one in the face of provocation, not be the first to lose his cool and start swinging. Cobus Reinach is another who just needs to spend a little more time fine-tuning some of his technique; we saw what an asset he is when he scored a beautiful solo try at a time when all seemed lost, but then again so much of the good play from the Bulls seemed to start with a misdirected clearance kick from the Sharks scrumhalf. Lwazi Mvovo and Waylon Murray are two players who really didn’t get into the game in a meaningful way, which is also not good enough given their experience.

The rest

I don’t want to be too harsh on Giant Mtayanda or Andre Esterhuizen, both in the fledgling stages of their Super Rugby careers. Both disappeared on the day, which was disappointing, but both will learn and return stronger players. Dale Chadwick and Jannie du Plessis will argue that the lack of scrums essentially removed them as a factor, but while I’m sure they were working hard in the tight, we’ll look for a little more impact from both next week.


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  • No ref rating? 😀

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.03.15 13:21:30 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : what would it achieve?

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.03.15 13:25:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Comedic value.

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.03.15 13:27:57 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Agree with all your ratings Rob, apart from SP, although I don’t think he had a bad game, for me he wasn’t a stand-out.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.03.15 13:28:33 by stevovo Reply
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  • Very good analysis Rob!!!I also feel Bissie should have reacted better.Renaldo and Kanko looked sharp and Lwazi was nowhere.A few experienced guys coming in this week should boost the backline. Looks like the Japan based players took better care of themselves this year!

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.03.15 13:36:31 by tigershark Reply

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  • Reinach incorrect defensive lines was a direct cause of both Stegmann’s and Spies’s tries. He marked the incorrect player twice. Definitely something he needs to work on.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.03.15 13:39:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 4) : Yeah, agree with you. He was good in a sense that he didn’t make as many mistakes as he usually makes. He didn’t do anything wonderful though. He was solid at best. Wouldn’t go as far as to say he showed his detractors the middle finger.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.03.15 13:40:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : ASAP! The guy needs a rude awakening.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.03.15 13:41:40 by Ben Reply
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  • The Sharks, like most SA teams MUST learn to take off-the-ball instances out of the equation while they are on the park doing the business.

    Players like Vic, the ref, the crowd got under their skin and it affected how they managed their own game.

    Now as an away team the crowd will always get on your case, but there is enough experience in this team to overcome this easily. They became to frenetic went for too many miracle plays where they needed to slow the game down to a point where it would frustrate the Bulls – I am talking about very easily manageable things here, like kicking the ball into the crowd when kicking out to avoid quick line-outs, slow down your own ruck ball and bash the fatties in channel 1 etc.

    As far as the ref goes he had difficulty managing this match and his own game suffered as a consequence. But tell me which is better, lose your cool with him, or communicate with him in a way to assure him you are doing things to make things easy for him? It really is as simple as a quick word in his ear when walking to the next line out, or scrum, saying something like: “Are you happy with our efforts at the ruck to roll clear/stay on feet/manage off-side lines?”. Refs are under as much pressure as players, talk to him like you would to a team mate about game management! Look as an example to Jean de Villiers and his ease and manner in which he communicates to refs on the international stage, even when calls goes against the Boks.

    As for Vic and his tricks, I mentioned to Rob prior to the game that I believe his experience will be telling, but the ease with which he got into the heads of Sharks players, and senior players at that, was a bit of a joke.

    In short, you lost on the big game plays because you lost focus and got influenced. The senior corps of the team need to go back and do some assessments on their own game management.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.03.15 13:44:02 by Morné Reply
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  • I feel like SP’s strength is in a running game rather than a kicking game. Reinach can be very 50/50, he scores tries more regularly than the other players, but his kicking and his defense are often found wanting. He is still young though. Do we not have better options at outside center? Heimar maybe? Murray doesn’t seem to be doing much out there. Good to see Kanko back though, and playing decent rugby, at least we have some options at 8 🙂

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.03.15 13:48:06 by Sharkie_wp Reply

     
  • @Morné (Comment 9) : Good stuff.That was the biggest game changer on Saturday.Not the ref!

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.03.15 13:49:02 by tigershark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 7) :

    He created our only try (Reinach’s wasn’t created, it was oppertunistic).

    That was pretty good I would say. He didn’t make one single mistake. His defense was good, he was never out of position. And his kicking were accurate.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.03.15 13:50:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) : I do like the way PSDT handled Matfield’s provocation. Sure – he got taught a lesson or two in organizing his lineout, but he calmly carried on and just ignored Victor’s silly antics.

    Have to say I have lost a lot of respect for Matfield – some of his antics really belonged with a 4-year old – not a 37 year old. Would still have him in the Bok setup though, but he remains a twat.

    However you are right. Bismarck needs to keep a cool head under provocation. He could easily have been sent off for that slap.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.03.15 13:54:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 12) : Who created our try? Bothma created the try with an offload. Not SP. Kicking good. Positioning good. Defense good. As I said, solid at best.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.03.15 13:55:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) :

    Morne, I think what Victor did was disgusting. I don’t think it is in the spirit of the game to stand in the opposition team huddles and play, players blatantly offside.

    The ref should have had a word with him. There is no rule against it, but I can see massive brawl braking out if teams start to do this – when there is a team huddle send someone to stand in their huddle. I don’t agree with it at all.

    What I do agree with is that Bissie does not have the skills to manage the ref to ever be a decent captain. He is to passionate and wears his emotions on his sleeves and sometimes when dealing with a ref, you need to be able to let go of that.

    Make Bissie team captain and Pat Lambie, for example official captain (the person who is allowed to talk to the ref).

    He is much more calm and though I think he is still very young and experience, I think he is the type of personality that could become a very good ref manager captain.

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.03.15 13:56:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • Lol

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.03.15 13:57:31 by jason X Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 14) : All four did, but SP had good awareness to expect the offload and then keep the ball alive for Odwa. Also popped up in the right place to “score” the try from Odwa’s chase.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.03.15 13:58:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 12) : What you say is not true. He did make a mistake. He kicked an up and under straight into an area where 7 Bulls players were standing, giving the chasers no chance to get close to it. Let’s call a spade, a spade please.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.03.15 13:58:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 14) :

    Bothma had no chance of creating that try if SP didn’t run the channel he did. It is unfair to credit Bothma with that try without giving any of the credit to the player running into the gap.

    Then Lambie wasn’t any good either and should also be dropped. The only player who did something individually brilliant, aside from Bothma and SP (I would have to include the supportive running of Odwa and Ryan in that also), was Reinach, but he wasn’t solid in the rest of his game.

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.03.15 13:59:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : I didn’t say he had a bad game, did I?

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.03.15 14:00:05 by Ben Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 19) : Same to you as to Bokhoring. Did I say he had a bad game?

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.03.15 14:01:11 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 18) :

    Yeah, the spade I’m calling is that SP had an excellent game. He made one kick (which I can’t remember, but trust your judgement), that was not good.

    Aside from that, I think he did everything he was asked to do to a very high standard. I also thought his decision making was good on the day.

    BTW, I’m one of the people that felt these first 3 games needed to be his last if there was not a marked improvement. I certainly think there have been and hope he can continue on this upward curve.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.03.15 14:02:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) : There are two sides to every story,Victor acted like an Australian cricketer on Saturday,he set out to seriously ,cynically disrupt Bismark in every way that he could..Relook that incident,look at where he was and what he did in full view of the ref.
    If the ref wasn’t incomplete awe of the maximum Blue Bull he would have blown him up.,and carded him.I am sure that if that was Bismark, he would have,
    Bismark is a hard rugby player not a dirty one,he did what he has always done,he let Matfield know in no uncertain terms that that is where it was going to end,and it did,Matfield must have soiled his trousers there for a minute.
    The worrying thing is that the uncompromising way he plays, that we admire in Bismark,and the reason he would be the number one choice in any team in the world,is also his undoing.
    He is such a focused competitor,that it is hard to rain him in.

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.03.15 14:03:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) : MY Thoughts exactly, just not in so many words! 😈

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.03.15 14:04:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 19) : But it’s fair for you to credit the try to SP even though Bothma created it in the first place? Really doesn’t make sense.

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.03.15 14:04:33 by Ben Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) :

    Victor did what he did to achieve one very simple thing – and he got what he wanted.

    I refer to game management a lot – and managing Vic’s antics is also part of just that, your personal (as captain) or team game management. A calm word with the ref on this would have sorted it out, but us Saffas just love the ‘get out of my face or I will moer you’ attitude.

    Just like players a ref’s game sometimes falls apart and he would miss things or do things that is done through poor judgment.

    I personally see no difference in a captain’s role to judge and intervene when he sees one of his players falling to pieces and managing that than with a ref.

    Your influence and approach to an official has a direct influence on how he approaches specific areas of the game, whether it be foul play, specific areas like rucks, line outs or scrums etc.

    Most will disagree with me that a ref needs to be professional enough to do this himself – I reckon captains and leaders within the team can play a massive part in managing this positively.

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.03.15 14:05:15 by Morné Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 22) : He was miles better than he was in previous games. That we can definitely agree on.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.03.15 14:05:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 22) : Seriously watch the tape again and watch Houghaard’s try and watch out for S.P., as the last defender,an under 10 wouldn’t have fallen for that dummy.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.03.15 14:07:16 by The hound Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 18) : Can’t have a Sharks game with not at least one bone-headed kick. He was just filling the quota.

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.03.15 14:09:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 21) :

    “Solid at best” – “didn’t make as many mistakes as usual” – “didn’t do anything wonderful”

    No you didn’t say he played badly, but I still think your comments are over critical.

    He’s making a good comeback, I think.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.03.15 14:09:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 23) :

    You know what – the world just saw how to piss Bismarck off and potentially have any team he plays in go at it for 10 minutes with 14 men.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.03.15 14:10:09 by Morné Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : Well, I don’t think they are. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.03.15 14:12:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 26) :

    I definitely agree that we should have managed Matfield better and the ref better.

    The fact that I believe the both of them were wrong, does not mean that we could not have handled it better.

    Bissie tends to get quiet when a ref makes bad calls and then suddenly he’ll react, instead of talking about his concerns right away.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.03.15 14:20:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 31) : Morne as much as I agree I also disagree, If the ref did his job as it was very clear in the open then Bismark would not have taken matters into his own hands, I sat 4 rows from the field and on a few occasions Bulls players lay on the Sharks side of rucks and did not allow the ball to come out, only towards the end of the match did the ref pick up on this. I know of one occasion when Deysel also nearly kicked out at a Bulls play lying on the ground holding him back from going to contest for the ball.

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.03.15 14:20:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 31) :

    Bissie can use this to hos own advantage. Understand that teams will try this and insure the ref sees what they are doing, instead of reacting in anger.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.03.15 14:21:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 33) : It is also difficult to manage a ref when he does not allow you to talk to him, I remember clearly when Bismark still opened his mouth to question a call and was told “just get back”

    he walked away shacking his head, I am not saying Bismark was good or not good, but as capt he has the right to question what he deems to be a wrong call.

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.03.15 14:22:59 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) :

    They were very dirty around the ruck area and the ref did nothing about it.

    A better ref manager (it’s going to become a thing), would have known how to show this to the ref, without lashing out.

    Bissie is to emotional to manage a ref. Players Captain yes, but not the official captain, whose main job these days has become ref management.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.03.15 14:24:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • Forgot to mention that the touch judges should also be helping the ref, in the case where Matfield was fouling Bismark is was in totally clear vision of Hoffman, he could and should have relayed this to the ref.

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.03.15 14:25:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) :

    Control what you can, not what you can’t. And you can control your own actions.

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.03.15 14:25:28 by Morné Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) :

    I agree, but refs tend to say this more to Bissie than Jean de Villiers, for example, and I think it is because of the way he tends to talk to them. Too emotional. And I don’t think he’ll be able to change this. He is a very passionate player. It’s what I like about Bis, but it doesn’t work as captain.

    Refs hate players like this, they don’t even want to hear from them. They want to talk to someone who can take the emotion out of the situation.

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.03.15 14:26:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 37) : For sure I agree, Lambie should be ref manager lol.

    Also I was seriously happy with Lambies kicking out of hand, his touch finders were much further than usual

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.03.15 14:29:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 26) : Then Bismarck needs to be removed as far away from the captains arm-band as possible.

    Staying calm under pressure, and calmly talking to the ref would be more along Lambie’s temperament.

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) : Agree FTL

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.03.15 14:33:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Bismarck should have been more controlled but I really wouldnt have minded too much if he had given the toppie a proper whipping – he deserved it.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.03.15 14:34:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 40) : Must also have annoyed Bismarck that the ref kept calling him Bissie instead of Oom.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.03.15 14:36:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 31) : Do you think there is a coach in the world who didn’t already know that.

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.03.15 14:36:38 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 45) : Not even Bissie, but “Bizzie” 🙄

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.03.15 14:49:24 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I’d like to see Thomas du Toit start next week. Not because I think Chadwick deserves to be dropped, but it would be in keeping with the rotational policy and would give the young bloke a chance to stake his claim.

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.03.15 15:04:13 by David12246 Reply

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  • Quite a few people are saying on 1 of the SA Rugby Magazine articles that Sharks should have got 2 red cards during the game. I’m sure they think Bissie deserved a red for his incident with Matfield but where was the other card for that everyone is talking about? I don’t think we deserved any cards. I’m gutted that SuperBru only thought Bissie was worse 2.5 this week…I thought he had a better game than that…will always be my favourite

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.03.15 15:09:37 by Shones Reply

     
  • Agree with the ratings Rob and I must say Lambie impresses me more and more each week – that boy is CLASS!!!
    PSTD was just as immense for me – barring the 1 or 2 balls we lost at line outs. He was everywhere and defending solidly. Victor’s antics just shows to what depths they had to go just to unsettle us and try and get the upper hand. They showed a replay of Bismark telling Victor in no uncertain terms what he thought – everyone could lipread that: #$% JOU!!! lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.03.15 15:11:30 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @Shones (Comment 49) : They’re talking out of their arses

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.03.15 15:11:50 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Great article Rob. I thought SP was improved, but not one of our best players. Glad he’s finding some form again.

    Kanko looked good and so did Odders.

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.03.15 15:32:39 by StevieS Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 4) : I did think SP was very good…

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.03.15 16:41:15 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) : This is a very fair and valuable comment…

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.03.15 16:44:01 by pastorshark Reply
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  • If Heyneke Meyer plays Spies and Matfield for the Boks, we will not progress beyond the quarter finals of the WC…..

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.03.15 16:54:28 by grant10 Reply

     
  • @Morné (Comment 9) : Couldn’t agree with you more Morne.

    Bismark is almost always worth at least 3 points to the opposing team, something I don’t much mind when he plays for the Sharks but I do very much when he plays for the Boks.

    Loftus is always a hard place to go and play (even if you are a Bull these days lol) and the Sharks should have factored that in.

    Personally I think the Sharks erred in Making Bismark Captain. There are better leaders in that team and his ref management style does nothing to et him or his team in the good graces of the refs, and yes man-management is a vital part of the modern Game. The best Captains have all done it well, from Fitzpatrick to Macaw to Teichman and Smit. Even DeVilliers. Bismark not so much.

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.03.15 16:58:02 by Stormersboy Reply

     
  • @grant10 (Comment 55) : If not Victor then who?

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.03.15 17:08:27 by Stormersboy Reply

     
  • I just compare Bismarck’s boorish behaviour with that of Vermeulen’s 2 weeks ago.
    Vermeulen didnt react and the opposition got carded and Stormers won the game.
    Bismarck got worked up and the Sharks ended up losing.

    A player can be as supremely good, but if he has no emotional intelligence he’ll never reach his full potential.

    Strauss FTW.

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  • @grant10 (Comment 55) :

    If he does that there wont be many spectators i venture.

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.03.15 17:32:49 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 58) : Fully agree. Bismarck isn’t captain material.

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.03.15 17:40:45 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) : The management of the ref was one of the biggest captaincy strengths of Keegan Daniel…

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.03.15 17:44:47 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 22) : Yeah, there has definitely been an upward curve for SP…

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.03.15 17:47:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 24) : 😆

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.03.15 17:49:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 26) : Absolutely…if they don’t do it already, they should actively coach captains to do this!

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.03.15 17:51:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 35) : I certainly hope his coaches actively address this area with Bismarck…

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.03.15 17:54:31 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 45) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.03.15 17:57:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 60) : This is what I said at the beginning of the season.

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.03.15 18:02:46 by Ben Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 65) : Which coach would be brave enough? :mrgreen:

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  • It was tough sitting at Loftus watching us being done in time and again by the ref, but there were some glaring mistakes from some of our players that gave the game away. Those two easy tries should not have been. Both bad defence from Cobus. Esterhuizen should’ve tackled Kriel before he got going and sending the forward pass. Why chase all the way if you’re not going to at least try tackle the ball-catcher?

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.03.15 18:17:57 by T-Shark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 67) : I think we said it last season already.

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.03.15 18:20:03 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @T-Shark (Comment 69) : Kriel stepped him so easily it was laughable.

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.03.15 18:20:45 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 70) : Good on you. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.03.15 18:22:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 58) : Vermeulan didn’t react because even by this week end he still didn’t know what hit him,went down like Keith Richards on a line of coke.

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.03.15 18:24:44 by The hound Reply
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  • It is amazing how good a Sharks loss is for Sharksworld numbers.

    Rob wins either way…now just to turn these comments into ca$h ❓

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.03.15 18:26:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • Was at a Maritzburg College Sports awards a little while ago where Craig Joubert was the guest speaker. He confirmed that the rapport that a captain builds with the ref is vitally important, and mentioned that Sean Fitzpatrick and John Smit were really good at this. He said this should start even before the players get on the field He mentioned a game where I think he was a touch judge for the Wallabies V Boks in Ozz, where John Smit was Bok Captain and Rocky Elsom was Wallaby captain. At the pre-game meeting, John Smit spoke affably and engaged the ref, whereas Rocky Elsom just sat there glowering at him, not saying a word. Once the game started it was just natural that the ref communicated better with Smit than Elsom, and he reckoned that Elsom did his team a huge disservice with his attitude.

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.03.15 18:29:49 by jonnow Reply

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  • @T-Shark (Comment 69) : because Andre turns like a tank. Chance you take when you pick such a big guy…

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.03.15 18:36:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @jonnow (Comment 75) : So basically if you kiss the ref’s ass the whole day long, the 50/50 calls will go your way. That’s what it sounds like to me. 🙄 😀

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.03.15 18:41:59 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) : Where do you download the game from? YouTube?

  • Comment 78, posted at 02.03.15 18:51:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 77) : If you think man management equates to kissing ass, you must kiss a lot of ass to get through each day :mrgreen:

  • Comment 79, posted at 02.03.15 18:51:18 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 79) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 02.03.15 18:55:42 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 78) : Yes. Search Sharks vs Bulls Full Game 2015 on YT. Copy the link address, go to http://en.savefrom.net/ and paste into the download field.

  • Comment 81, posted at 02.03.15 18:55:46 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 68) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 02.03.15 18:59:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 81) : I’m using ‘Ilivid download manager’ to download files from YouTube.

  • Comment 83, posted at 02.03.15 19:00:44 by Ben Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 55) : I’m afraid that Pierre Spies try has him firmly on the Bok radar again. I apologize on behalf of the Sharks that allowed him to stroll through 😀

  • Comment 84, posted at 02.03.15 20:09:16 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 84) : I think, luckily, that even Heyneke wouldn’t dare replace Duane. There isn’t a better rugby player in my eyes at this point.

  • Comment 85, posted at 02.03.15 21:09:20 by T-Shark Reply

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  • Naas Botha is a truelly honest sportsman, and on Superrugby he basically said poor calls were critical to the Sharks and basically cost them the game.

  • Comment 86, posted at 02.03.15 21:24:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Big respect for Naas, really put the match officials to the sword without being degrading towards them.

  • Comment 87, posted at 02.03.15 21:26:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Naas also saying Matfield should have been punished for starting the crap with Bismark. 👿

  • Comment 88, posted at 02.03.15 21:47:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : So, I watched the first half again last night. SP made a few mistakes. He could have done better in defence for the Hongaardt try, I know it’s a difficult one, though. In the 28th minute we made a nice break and had some momentum running into the Bulls 22. He proceeded to kick a silly little grubber and just handed the possession back to the Bulls. The Kankowski try – To say SP created that try is just absurd. He was standing still when Bothma drew in 2 defenders and offloaded in the tackle, leaving SP wide open. I’m still not saying he had a bad game, but I stick with my original opinion. Solid at best. 🙄

  • Comment 89, posted at 03.03.15 03:41:19 by Ben Reply
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  • I have been unable to watch any of the three games so far but have been told we are playing boring kick away possession rugby a la Jake White 2014 vintage all over again. Is this true? Did we not learn the lessons of last year? How boring if true. How uninspiring if true. How ultimately doomed to failure if true. C’mon Sharks, you’re better than that if true. What about Gold and Venter saying pre-season we were to play a more attractive brand of rugby? Let’s see offloads! Let’s see some creativity! Let’s see unpredictability! Let’s be smart! #destined never to be champions?

  • Comment 90, posted at 03.03.15 09:36:00 by Feather Reply

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  • I think we should give SP some real credit for upping his game from the low class performances in the past few weeks. He is slowly but surely getting back to the dynamic SP we have come to know. Well done to Lambie for his incredible goal kicking. Reinach has to up his game this week as i think Nick Groom is looking very good sofar. As for the match officials, lets not say anything. I was ready to (metophorically speaking) fly up to pretoria and kick them so hard up the bum that they could taste the leather of my Jim Green boots.

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.03.15 09:51:34 by willemv10 Reply

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  • 😎 ❗ 😉

  • Comment 92, posted at 03.03.15 10:10:57 by JohanDT04 Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 90) : Definitely too much kicking (at one SS reported us kicking 41 vs Bulls 19), but then we still lack penetration in the midfield.

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.03.15 10:15:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Feather (Comment 90) : Unfortunately your sources are correct. We are kicking away a helluva lot of ball. I was surprised that we took this approach against the Bulls, in dry weather, as we took them on in their own game plan. Which in my opinion is silly.

    Also to give credit where it was due, Pollard was outstanding on the day and was certainly a big factor in them being competitive. For SA’s sake its a huge positive that we have 2 superb flyhalves at the moment.

  • Comment 94, posted at 03.03.15 10:43:26 by stevovo Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 84) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.03.15 11:08:33 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @T-Shark (Comment 85) : Surely that is right!

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.03.15 11:09:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 86) : I saw that…I believe that is true…I was pissed off…there is nothing I can do about it…time to move on…

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.03.15 11:10:47 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 94) : Both flyhalves were very good!

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.03.15 11:13:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : spot on Rob!!! The less said about it thr better! !!!

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.03.15 16:31:12 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 84) : hahahaha! !!!

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.03.15 16:32:33 by JD Reply
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