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Injury concerns for Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 11 Aug 2015 at 10:56
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The last thing the Sharks needed after a disappointing opening-round loss to the Pumas was to pick up injuries as well, but that seems to be exactly what’s happened and Gary Gold will need to scratch his head a little in order to pick his team for the EP Kings’ visit on Saturday.

Lourens Adriaanse appears to be the most serious of the casualties – the Bok prop picking up a nasty shoulder injury half an hour into the contest at Mbombela. He looks set for an extended rest and with designated backup Thomas du Toit also doubtful following and ankle sprain, the Sharks may need to bring in emergency tighthead cover from elsewhere.

Jean-Luc du Preez is also in doubt, after picking up an unspecified leg injury during the first half. While brother Daniel could (and probably should) replace him in the starting lineup this week, Jean Deysel may also come back into selection contention.

The Sharks name their team on Thursday morning.


33 Comments

  • ok, time for the new guys to step up in the front row. fortunately it looked good vs Lions plus the Kings probably not the best scrumming opposition but they do have a few more than decent guys.

    please just build on last 40 and pitch up for a change!!! Only the Bokke looked more flat then the Sharks last weekend

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.08.15 11:02:58 by Kabouter Reply
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  • Rob, I sent you an email to the admin address.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.08.15 11:13:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 1) : hell not sure about that, both teams that lost against the Pumas looks bad!!!!!!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.08.15 11:34:55 by JD Reply
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  • Does Jean (hope I got the name right) play loosehead or tighthead?

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.08.15 11:52:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 4) : Juan?

    Loosehead

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.08.15 13:40:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 2) : didn’t get it.

    Can you retry? rob at sharksworld dotcoza

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.08.15 13:40:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : That’s the one. Who’s next in line to play 3?

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.08.15 14:03:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I must say I am uneasy we had all the ingredients the past weekend. What is hindering these boys?

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.08.15 14:13:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Injury are not the only concerns they have right now…

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.08.15 14:17:47 by Big Fish Reply
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  • It’s very quiet around here sounds like great uncertainty whether or not we are going to shape. Or that there is even a plan in the sharks camp. I hate that feeling haven’t felt this way about these boys for most of my adult life.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.08.15 14:55:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Hi Rob, can I now also have a trophy. I actually won a SW pool on SB. Only took me about 7 years. 😳

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.08.15 15:04:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 8) : I think we did but also didnt. Yes confusing but bear with me…we had a good side on paper. The guys however looked very sluggish (hows the fitness really?), they looked uncertain of a game plan( similar to super rugby), they made fundamental errors in terms of lost lineouts (how many were practiced?), handling was again poor like last years CC. I know we have some new guys but the ex Sharks in the Pumas…Kwezi Mona, Lambert Groenewald, Jerome Pretorius and Rosco Speckman outplayed every guy in a Sharks jersey.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.08.15 15:47:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 12) : Then how is it we have been missing crucial elements of coaching since gold joined? We forget about defense in one year then forget about set pieces the next, oh and never mind ball skills boys…. Here is an international coach promoted to director of rugby with a decent budget big names on the books and a no name brand from nelspruit out coaches out plays and out maneuvers him. Are Gary and Heneike both trying to write the book on what not to do when coaching high quality rugby.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.08.15 16:24:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 11) : send me the details

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.08.15 16:47:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • What’s the latest on coenie? When he is better will he do some shark duty to get back in shape for boks?

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.08.15 17:13:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : nah bru, it’s just that Gold is not very good. Check out his previous track record and ask yourself why you’re suddenly expecting him to produce the goods?

    Lower your expectations to bottom half of the table (just what we got in Super Rugby) and you will be fine.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.08.15 17:20:28 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • To hit a home semi and final games against the Pumas simply need to be won. No excuses.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.08.15 17:21:12 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 1) : The problem is that both injured props are tighthead…and I don’t know who is next in line. Didn’t Chadwick also want to give tighthead a go?

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.08.15 19:28:49 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 18) : notging against him but I really can’t see him being successful at 3!!! Seems Bokke and Sharks suffer with the same problems!!!!

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.08.15 23:09:50 by JD Reply
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  • guys we’re not giving the puma’s enough credit. Their a well rounded squad of talent player. This is SA, we gave tons of good player the just all need a chance to work long term with a coaching staff. Pumas recruit and scout cleverly, the understand how to win player over and they dont stand in their way when those player move on. They have solid sponsorship and they have had stability in their back room staff. Stonehouse help build that culture and ethos and he had time to do it with little internal/external or media pressure. It didnt happen over night, and then he moved on and didnt gut the coaching staff as he left for japan. One has to also look at the structure of the pumas year, they play vodacom cup and get the the final and win, then 8 weeks of preseason for currie cup and then back on holiday for most og their players. Thats just two tournaments to focus on and ample time to rest recover and prepare (if done correctly). Compare them to griquas who had to qualify for the cc premier division, or to the kings who are having a tough time administratively of late, the pumas has the right formula for success. Their team that beat wp in the vodacom cup at newlands was almost the exact team that beat use, except for Giant, faf, and fourie that started on the bench and actually came on and played poorly. We’ve had a much more unstable year, and just because we’re a SR franchise doesnt mean we should steam role so called smaller unions in the CC, those days are over, what with all our good players would dont make the boks in japan during the cc, and boks not involved in the cc. We got beaten by a better team on the night lets move on. I like how competitive the cc has become

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.08.15 23:44:10 by revolverocelot Reply

     
  • @revolverocelot (Comment 20) : sorry dude. They’re the Pumas. THE PUMAS. The Sharks just shouldn’t lose to the Pumas.

    If it wasn’t for the horrible Super 15 shambles we’ve just witnessed, perhaps I’d agree and say, “shit it was just a one off, well done Pumas”.

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.08.15 01:43:51 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • It appears Heyneke has renewed Bok contract to 2019

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.08.15 07:44:24 by grant10 Reply

     
  • @revolverocelot (Comment 20) : 100% correct! You are wasting your time though. For some reason playing for the Sharks means you walk on water, and should never lose!!
    Sharks have lost to worse teams than this Puma’s team, and with better players turning out for them. People underestimate the effect that new combinations have in a team sport environment. The Pumas have had minimal disruptions in team dynamics.

    To win, just put a Sharks jersey on and voila! The Boks should wear Sharks undies for similar effect!!

    Sharks have been in turmoil for a while, and with many of their stalwarts moving off, rebuilding is inevitable, and with it a mixed bag of performances.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.08.15 08:24:01 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 20) : @KingCheetah (Comment 23) : Very true, this Puma team decimated WP in the Vodacom Cup final and just a few weeks ago again beat their Currie Cup team in a warm up game. Both games played away from home.

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.08.15 08:30:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 23) : I agree with what you say re rebuilding, but in these circumstances you need a visionary of sorts at the helm to manage the process. I just don’t have a lot of faith in Gary to be able to be that man.

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.08.15 08:32:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 21) : Thats like saying the Sharks should never beat anyone because back in the 80’s they languished in the B section of the Currire Cup.
    This is a good Pumas side and will still beat a few more bigger names.

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.08.15 08:34:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 22) : Why would he even be considered for an extension. He has shown absolutely no progress in the time he has held the reigns.

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.08.15 08:39:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : That is probably the most worrying aspect. I mean take a guy like Joe Pieterson (look it was his 1st game) but at both WP and the Cheetahs he looked exciting and did the basics well- on Fri he looked like he had hardly ever kicked a ball. Our lineouts looked like the guys had all forgotten the calls. And then our conditioning looked terrible in comparison. I dont accept the excuse that the guys just failed to pitch up because the same things happened in super rugby constantly

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.08.15 08:40:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 25) : There I agree. Plum had his detractors, but I last enjoyed the Sharks rugby when he was coach! JW may have impressed many on here, but he farked the playing style of the Sharks up but good.

    Never been a fan of Gold!

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.08.15 09:09:04 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : And some common denominators remain if I were to ask when did our ridiculous form start what would you all say? I mean under BMH sure we were outclassed but we came right , sort of and sustained that level and we had green players. Under Gary and Co it seems like back to the drawing board every week. From my point of view at least.

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.08.15 12:09:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 30) : No id say before that to be honest. Sharks won games under Jake White but didnt play well at all, lots of errors and bad fundamentals. The last time i enjoyed the Sharks style of play was in 2010 under Plum. Our handling was good…we won our scrums and lineouts…we held onto the ball and were very aggressive in the rucks and mauls. The Sharks replicated the Brumbies of old in their phase play. However…the game changed…the rucks became a free for all…we didnt evolve. We still try play ruck to ruck and thus get turned over. The All Blacks o it best but sides like the Lions and Pumas are trying to do it locally- they keep the ball alive and pass before contact or as thy take contact…they want to avoid rucks as much as possible as the ref gets it wrong most times. Jake White realised this but instead employed a kicking game and asked opposition to run it and wanted them to create the rucks for Coetzee and Bissie to exploit.

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.08.15 12:17:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • You boys been misbehaving again?
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.08.15 12:24:53 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : So might there be a problem at lower levels like academy or xv? So that by the time a coach like plum got them he actually had to retrain some of them and now without that layer we end up with what we have? Then how do we justify the Joe Pietersen s and players that were in during the Plum Era? Surely if you have good fun de mental they don’t just get lost? They might rust because new coaches don’t constantly harp on them which brings me back to Gold.

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.08.15 13:13:22 by coolfusion Reply

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