The Springboks face Argentina in Buenos Aires in the last test before the Rugby World Cup kicks off. It will be sweet revenge for the Boks should they be able to pull off a victory, but it will matter very little in the bigger scheme of things. A loss would result in a record fifth loss in a row.
Argentina: 15-Joaquin Tuculet, 14-Santiago Cordero, 13-Matias Moroni, 12-Juan Martin Hernandez, 11-Juan Imhoff, 10-Nicolas Sanchez, 9-Martin Landajo; 8-Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7-Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe, 6-Tomas Lezana, 5-Tomas Lavanini, 4-Benjamin Macome, 3-Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, 2-Agustin Creevy (captain), 1-Marcos Ayerza
Substitutes: 16-Julian Montoya, 17-Lucas Noguera, 18-Juan Pablo Orlandi, 19-Matias Alemanno, 20-Pablo Matera, 21-Tomas Cubelli, 22-Juan Pablo Socino, 23-Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino
South Africa: 15, Zane Kirchner 14, Lwazi Mvovo, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damien de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Schalk Burger, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Victor Matfiel (captain), 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Marcel van der Merwe, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Trevor Nyakane.
Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Tendai Mtawariwa, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Handre Pollard, 23 Jan Serfontein

“Friendly” Lol I bet.
Please let it be a decent game!
Ireland-Scotland was very decent in the second half…nice game to watch…
Damnit, our second thread just got nuked! 🙁
@vanmartin (Comment 4) : Oh dear…and I was so convinced that that was going to be the one with the entertaining game!
Rooorrryyyyy!! Oops, sorry…wrong game!
Will SABC broadcast the Bok game?
@JarsonX (Comment 7) : I don’t think so…
@JarsonX (Comment 7) : Only looks like soccer on SABC1…
Sooo…Namibia beat Zimbabwe 80-6! That seems to be an excellent preparation for the world cup…
France almost scored straight away against England…
Looks like good weather in Buenos Aires…
A few late changes for Argentina: Hernandez out with a stomach bug and Ayerza out with a hamstring issue…
France lead 0-3 after 7 mins…
France look switched on tonight…
Wow, great try by the England winger…Watson…
England lead 7-3 after 13 minutes…
Wow! Another great try by England! Watson again…but seriousLy, that’s how a backline is supposedbto run!
12-3 England…
France kills England’s scrum and wins a penalty…12-6…
@pastorshark (Comment 18) : When last have we seen a backline move from the Boks like the one that led to Watson’s 2nd?
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 21) : 😯
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 21) : Funny thing us Meyer just spent the whole week talking about how the running game is not the right one for the northern hemisphere.
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 21) : And wasn’t it just so lovely to watch!
France just edging the scrum battle.
@Seth101 (Comment 23) : Well, in that HM makes a fair point…remember, a warm August is one thing in Europe and October often something very different. And I’m pretty sure the running game basically never wins the world cup. But having said that…it was beautiful to watch and I’d love to see it from the Boks…
@pastorshark (Comment 24) : That is why I love this game!
Anthems…and not a good start…is the mike on mute?
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 27) : Yup…
Ah…there it is…
Here comes the Argentinian anthem…with it’s 57 minute intro!
Argentinians crying all over the place…
The mike is on mute again…
Damn. Those Argentinians look so proud when they sing their national anthem
Here we go…
12-9 in England…and England with a yellow…
Lambie to kick off…
Lambie starts the game
Lambie with a deep kick off…
Lambie with a very good tactical kick!! Poor camera work though…
So who was the bright spark who decided we should play in white?
Krusty the Clown has lost his hair!!
Imhoff almost in the corner. Great defence by Etsebeth
Kirchener is turned over and the Argies almost score…
Lambie clears well…
Just a great try saving tackle bybEtzebeth…
@Seth101 (Comment 41) : I was wondering that too. Teams looks very similar
Argies already making our boys look ordinary.
Lambie with a nice attacking chip…Mvovo puts pressure on but Argentina clean it up well…
Good counter drive by the Boks…but Strauss is penalised…unlucky…
Penalty kick well kept in by the Boks! Bjt Kirchener doesn’t kicknit out…
@Seth101 (Comment 41) : Weird!
Brussouw wins the breakdown penalty…Lambie takes a shot…and nails it straight through the middle…0-3…
Great penalty won by Brussow.
Lambie going for posts and its over
Boks 3
Argies 0
6min
Matfield and Etzebeth cock up the restart and knock each other down.m.ai!
First scrum…
How amateur was that restart? Three stooges falling over one another. 🙄
Springboks have the heavier pack. Burgers ego is about 110kg of that lol
Reset…reset…
The Pumas set soooo low…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 57) : Really kak!
Boks get the first scrum penalty
@pastorshark (Comment 59) : In comparison the England and France scrums are solid.
A solid scrum by the Boks and they get a penalty…
Exactly same scrum as last week. Different game … different ref. Our penalty
Lovely chip By Lambie and regathered by Habana…
Another retake from the air…but Boks penalised for holding on…
Pumas knock it on at the lineout…
Aaaaand another reset…van der Merwe went down…luckily the ref was on the other side of the scrum!
Reset…
One for us, one for them…Pumas scrum penalty…
Marcel vd Merwe concedes a scrum penalty. Sanchez tacking a shot at goal and levels the scores
Argies 3
Boks 3
15min
Technically correct … but utterly wrong … whole argie front row hinging
We are so screwed this World Cup.
Sooo…reset, reset, penalty…reset, reset, penalty seems to be the scrum pattern…
Argentina nail the penalty…3-3…
Strauss makes some yards…
Lambie did well to tidy up that ball…and wins a penalty…
He will take the shot…
Argies not rolling. Lambie tacking a shot and regains the lead
Boks 6
Argies 3
17min
He nails it and makes it 3-6 after 17 minutes…
Kirchner: pick a defender and run into him as fast as possible. Don Quixote would be proud.
Boks run it from their 22 and win the penalty…
@vanmartin (Comment 82) :
Amazing … if you attack you get rewardwd by tge ref
Wonderful Bok maul…and then a lack of control drops the ball into touch…
Mvovo very good under the high ball…
Lambie with a good idea but the cross kick goes juuuust over Kriel…
Good maul defence Boks…
Great rip by Brussow
Brussouw with another good steal and the Boks kick through and pit pressure on…
Ohhhh Pienaar drops the ball over the try line!!
Pienaar almost in the corner but the ball dislodged.
That was good play…good running, great offload by Mvovo and Pienaar should have scored…
Pumas with a defensive kick on their line…and the Boks get the penalty right up against touch…
5m defensive scrum for Argies. Boks get a scrum penalty and go for the line out
Lambie kicks for the corner…lineout immediately sacked…
Another penalty to the Boks, set up the line out again
Another penalty…Lambienfor the corner again…
Maul set up…Brussow stopped just short…another penalty Boks…
And a 3rd penalty. Lambie sets up the line out again
Corner again…
Habana scores in the corner
Lineout variation..mgood move.m.Boks attack hard…Lambie almost over…recycked and Habana is in at the corner…
Lambie nails the conversion
Boks 13
Argies 3
27min
Lambie with the conversion attempt from touch…nails it perfectly! That’s how you do it!! 3-13…
Alberts makes yards…and the Boks get the penalty…
Good banana kick Lambie…
Penalties conceded
Argies 8
Boks 3
28min
Lambie has been very good…
Brilliant try by Mvovo
Mvovo with a great try!!
Awesome try mvovo
Well done son! Great finish…
Lambie nails his fourth
Boks 20
Argies 3
31min
Lambie converts again…despite super kak camera work…
3-20 after 31 mins…
Telkom has decided that my Internet speed is not important, so I’m watching a sideshow.
Argentina regather the kickoff variation…and win a penalty…
Penalty against Strauss
Sanchez goes for goal and over
Argies 6
Boks 20
33min
The kick is good…and it is 6-20 straight away…
Concentrate at kickoffs boys!
Argentina under pressure but do well to run it out from their own line…and clear…
Kirchener misses the tackle…
A few missed tackles by the Boks in that move…but Pumas pass it into touch…
England lead 19-9…
Pumas steal our lineout! Ag…
What?! Glen Jackson!!! Argie knocks the kick on…Jackson says it is straight down…what?!
Brussouw has been much better today!
Penalty to Argentina…that should have been a Bok attacking scrum though…poor reffing!
Argentina will take another shot…and nails it again…20-9…
Penalty attempt by Sanchez and over.
Argies 9
Boks 20
38min
Habana regathers Lambie’s restart…Boks attack…
Big handbags now…Argies losing their heads! They got a bit of a lucky breakdown penalty…
TMO to check for possible foul play
Glen Jackson wants the TMO to check that out…
The Argentinians were in the way several times before earning the penalty…and the just some argy-bargy…
Well handeled by Glen Jackson
That’ll pretty much be halftime…
Yup…there it is…halftime…
Halftime
Argentina 9
Boks 20
9-20 to the Boks…and the Boks have been pretty calm and accomplished. A few stupid mistakes but also a lot that was good…
Lambie’s better game management has certainly helped…
Interesting team stats
Tackles made
Argies 37
Boks 47
Tackles missed
Argies 8
Boks 7
Clean Breaks
Argies 1
Boks 2
France scores!
France score on the other channel…
At last a decent ref handling a rugby match, Lambie the General, SheldonK, hope you watching boet, Lambie is pure class, and calm in everything he does.
19-14 with the conversion to come…
@sharks_lover (Comment 147) : Agreed on both counts…
Great finish by Mvovs for his try!!
Interesting Boks stats
Turnovers won
Heinrich Brussow 2
Defenders Beaten
Lwazi Mvovo 2
Metres ran
Zane Kircner 52
Lwazi Mvovo 51
Tackles made
Heinrich Brussow 8
Willem Alberts 8
Our scrums have been much better and so has our tactical kicking. The studio pretty complimentary of Lambie…
France conversion missed by the way…19-14…
Great defence and then break out by France…
13 minutes left between England and France…should be interesting!
Kockott on…
Spedding has been pretty good at the back.
We’re about to get underway again in Buenos Aires…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 157) : What? Better than Krusty?! I don’t believe it…
Sanchez starts the 2nd half
Another Lambie kick regathered by Habana…Boks attack hard…
Kirchener not great with the pass and Mvovo into touch…good build up, poor finish….
See Brits is on
We steal the lineout…and Lambie nails the drop kick…
Drop goal Lambie
Boks 23
Argies 9
42min
I think Lambie is putting one particular argument to rest…
Much better kick chases by the Boks too…
Nice pass by Lambie puts Habana away…inside pass…but de Allende hangs on and we are penalised…
Now Argentina attack…
Pumas have an advantage but still attack…
Penalty…
Pumas kick for the corner…
Lambie hasn’t missed a tackle either! Pumas knock it…
Boks run it up off the scrum…Lambie clears…
9-23 after 49 mins…
Boks with another lineout steal and Lambie with a loooong kick…
Our centres have been quite quiet today…and that is where Argentina turn it over…
Boks very unlucky to be penalised there…that ball was up in the air…
Argentina take a shot…and nail it to make it 12-23…
Penalty converted by Sanchez
Argies 12
Boks 23
52min
France attack right at the end, but England win a turnover penalty…and that will be it…
England win 19-14…
Argentina keep the ball well ever since the kick off…
The kick is won by the Boks, they attack and get a penalty…
Lambie will take another shot…
@pastorshark (Comment 159) : Yes,hard performance to top, I know!
Penalty Lambie
Boks 26
Argies 12
55min
He maintains his 100% record and makes it 12-26…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 186) :
Argentina build through the phases…up to the 22 now…finally knocked by the Pumas…
Pienaar’s kick is way too long and it is a scrum all the way back…
Give Reinach 20 mins here…
Brussow slowly getting back to his best
Not exactly filled with awe by this Bok performance against the Argie 2nd XV
@Mutley (Comment 193) : Ja…he has been good today!
Boks win the scrum penalty…and great kick Lambie into the Pumas 22…
Sxhalk Brits withba good run…then Burger…Boks right there…but the slow ball…
Bloody useless…that is the difference between us and the All Blacks…we have a good break…get right there and then have 5 bloody slow rucks!!! What the hell man?!?! Get it out quickly and just bloody score!!
TMO to check for foul play
Argentina break out…now TMO to check for Argentinian foul play…
Oops…I think he could be in trouble…
Yup…yellow card for the Puma 5…
Yellow card to Lavanini
@pastorshark (Comment 198) : Hard to watch!
All in all Jackson has been pretty good…
Mistake by Lambie as he kicks the penalty dead
Lambie makes his first real mistake and kicked that penalty a metre too far…pity…
PSdT on at flank…
Another Bok penalty…
De Allende and Kriel have been anonymous
This time Lambie kicks it out in the Puma 22…
Good build up play by the Boks…PSdT and Etzebeth making yards…but Etzebeth held up and it is a turnover as maul was called…
@pastorshark (Comment 205) : I don’t know why more players don’t become refs.
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 210) : Yup…at least they didn’t leak much… 😆
Argentina free kick at that scrum…
Great Bok maul…
But Argentina turn it over…ai!
Bring Reinach on and give him some time!
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 213) : Agreed…
The Boks have controlled the game well though…
@pastorshark (Comment 214) : Sharp one Pastoor 😀
Argentina get a penalty for Boks pushing early…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 221) :
Good defence by the Boks and they get the turnover at the maul…
@pastorshark (Comment 219) : There do seem to be some duds when ex-players become officials, though. Paul Reiffel comes to mind.
Another solid Bok scrum…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 225) : True… 😮
Lambie covers well and dots it down…
Lambie with a nice little break there…he has been good…
Again the Boks all over the Pumas in the build up…but can’t finish…
This inability to finish is…ummmm…frustrating!!!
Pollard on for Kirchner getting a full 6min
Those rugby lovers born in New Zealand don’t realise how fortunate they are.
Boks win a free kick at the scrum…come on…end it with a try!
Reinach on. Gets 4min
Faark…sprinbok rugby is boring…
They choose to scrum…for all of 4 minutes now Reinach and Pollard come on…
PSdT has certainly made meters since coming on…
The Pumas play the halfback and are penalised…the Boksnwill scrum again…
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 233) : Yup…
Boks scrum strongly…but then knock it!
Great control by Burger at the base of the scrum as he knocks the ball
The Boks have been controlled and calm…it is just so disappointing that we couldn’t score from the gazillion chances we had in the last 20 minutes…
The hooter has gone but Jackson says there are two more minutes…
I reckon this is good for our preparations for the world cup, though…
Tighthead for the Boks!
Mvovo is bloody tackled by his own man! Hahahaha…pathetic…who was that?!
@KILLER SHARK (Comment 236) : As hell…
Fulltime
Springboks 26
Argentina 12
Did Joel Stransky say, a moment ago, that the Boks were clinical with the chances they had?!? What?!?!
@pastorshark (Comment 247) : Think it was Serfontein 😆
Look, we were much better…calm and in control, much better at forward, much better on defence…Lambie certainly made a big difference with his game management…but damn: We could have scored another handful of tries with all those chances…
Night all!
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 251) : He bloody tackled his own winger!!! Have you EVER seen that before?
@Spirit of Rugby (Comment 253) : Cheers…
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Lambie put an argument to rest tonight. His game management is just better…I am very chuffed for him…well played, son…
@pastorshark (Comment 256) : Pity HM will elevate Pollard first opportunity. Excellent game by Pat tonight but nor convi
I want to screen when I hear Naas down playing g Lambie saying that it was just good ball from the forwards,and Pollard got bad ball. How much of an idiot can you be…
@Kabouter (Comment 257) : Well, we’ll see…
@pastorshark (Comment 259) : Aargh, could not edit comment. Really hope Pat is now 1st choice but nothing HM does should be a surprise.
At least the guys given a forced opportunity did well, apart from Strauss.
Brits to backup Bissie if weather decent. Beast def best loosie. Matfield was good away from tight stuff so bench better option? Alberts is as key to HM plans as FDP.
Centres must be sorted now with these three
Ashwin talks sense…
@Kabouter (Comment 260) : Of course when Owen asked HM about Lambie he looked all over the place with shifty eyes and proceeded not to answer the question…so Pollard is probably still the no. 1…
@pastorshark (Comment 262) : *sigh*
@pastorshark (Comment 262) : I loled at that, “what did you think of the fringe players like Lambie?” proceeds to say nothing about the players or Lambie at all.
My bet is Morne Stay and Du Preez will start the first game
I am at least satisfied that Lambie backed all of my arguments in the last few weeks. I know what I think and it was confirmed tonight…and with that I go to bed for a peaceful night’s rest! Tata…
@Seth101 (Comment 264) : Plus he got those shifty eyes and looked all over the place right then…ai!
Damn my Internet cut out,I only saw Naas’s prediction for the final, an one catch the other two?
@Seth101 (Comment 268) : Ashwin picked no one. Nick picked semifinalists: Boks vs All Blacks, England vs Ireland…
@pastorshark (Comment 267) : Someone needs to make a HM shifty eye gif 😀
@Seth101 (Comment 265) : If that is the case I shall swear!!
@Seth101 (Comment 270) : Yesss!
@pastorshark (Comment 269) : Ashwin probably the most realistic 😛
Guys we knew people would downplay even if lambie was the cause of 50 – 0 victory. They would say..Ja but argentina made changes or argentina already proved their point last week….the forwards did play a part but so did lambie he was 100% more present than Pollard. Pollard shrinks back when he gets too much pressure and that may be his big flaw. He is good but he needs some help there. Lambie on the other hand is great at managing defending and many other aspects but he needs to get his goal average up. Both need help. My argument is that Lambie is treated like a foster child. I hope HM gives him a lot more opportunity most semi’s and finals are low scoring and rely on great management to shut out the opposition as well as you can. Lambie is the level head for that. Some games have an opportunity of high scoring and great confidence building Pollard could be the man for that. Pollard needs to be looked after better that dies not always mean game time sometimes it means NOT playing.
@pastorshark (Comment 262) : My guess is that he simply appeased the public with Lambie. He is in a win win. If we lost he would have said lambie makes no difference and back to the old plan. If we won he would have taken the credit for getting back on track and the heat being off revert back to the plan. He is a hard head he will NOT change easily no matter what. Pollard is his “find” and he wants all the credit should this kid become great. Off course I will give him all the blame should this not happen since Pollard cannot just be forced to overcome some of his flaws it needs proper care else we waste another hopeful flyhalf in Pollard whilst at the same time wasting a currently capable Lambie.
Well done Lambie…..as far as I am concerned the Premier Bok 10 now!
@coolfusion (Comment 274) : “They would say..Ja but argentina made changes or argentina already proved their point last week…”
Argentina did prove a point last week. They proved that Pollard is kak and that Heyneke Meyer is a fool.
@Ben (Comment 277) :
Ha ha, you guys are a hoot! For my impartial opinion. I am glad Lambie had a blinder. Glad we have two 10’s that are inherently different. Lambie has the benefit of experience.
All of you, that are so sarcastically criticising HM, you are all the same. Had the boks lost, and Lambie played less spectacularly, you would have lambasted HM for not giving Lambie more game time.
As Mallet correctly says, Lambie had better quality ball to play with. Pollard is still green, but he has potential. Take off your Lambie blinkers and revel in the fact that we have good 10’s to use in any match going forward.
As far as I am concerned, I don’t particularly care who of Lambie, Pollard or Jantjies plays. Lambie also made mistakes. A kick out on the full, and a penalty over the dead ball line, as I understand. Yes he is more composed than Pollard, and yes his game management is better. He also has 6 years more experience. Try be less biased chaps!!
Lambie rules! But that aside I do think Pollard is quality he just needs management. He has a mental block when the pressure is on Lambie has some goal kicking work. But fairness os all I ask for. Can’t use lambie only as the cleanup guy and then have issues when his fans raise alarm. Treat them both equally and there won’t be a fight. Blinkers on in the Pollard camp too.
@KingCheetah (Comment 279) : “Glad we have two 10’s that are inherently different.”
By different you mean Pollard being kak and Lambie being good? 🙂
@KingCheetah (Comment 279) : But I’m really not surprised with your continued support of Heyneke Meyer. By supporting the Cheetahs for so many years, you must be well used to mediocrity by now.
@KingCheetah (Comment 279) : “Yes he is more composed than Pollard, and yes his game management is better. He also has 6 years more experience.”
Ok, so if I understand you correctly… What you’re saying is that right now, with a high pressured “winner takes all” World Cup just 30 days away… Lambie is the better man for the immediate job at hand?
@CS (Comment 283) : That’s also how I read the post
@CS (Comment 283) : How dare you use logic? We are basing everything on our likes and biggest brute is better even though the world has proven that the most intelligent guy helps the win. Dan carter Matt Giteau. Johnny Wilkenson. Joel Stransky all sub 1.8 meters brilliant generals. But no we need a lock playing at flyhalf bigger is better. How dare you be rational and expect an intelligent player over a huge bruiser.
Eish the amount of smoke blowing here is simply astounding,Bambie is not and never will be a proper 10 ,but neither is Pollard ,he all hype but no go,that’s also why Bokke are so static on the field,no go forward,all the while the inform 10 from SR sits ,same goes for the 9 position,but hey go Bokke
@KingCheetah (Comment 279) : You and I will keep disagreeing on this…not that Pollard doesn’t have potential – he does…not that Lambie doesn’t make mistakes – he does…we agree on all that. But you keep going on about bias! Come on…we’ve established that we all have bias to some extent or another…get over it! But to say that praising Lambie for yesterday’s performance, pointing out that he was better than Pollard has been all season in most aspects of the game, repeating that his game management is better…and being happy that he made use of his chance…well, to say that all that is just the product of bias and Lambie blinkers is just plain ridiculous. Ai nee! I repeat what I have said countless times: I’m glad we have Lambie AND pollard; with them we have two good flyhalves; I also believe that Lambie is the better bet for this world cup because he has better game management and more experience at this stage. My honest opinion…not just blinker-induced sprouting…
@benji (Comment 286) : Wow…
@Ben (Comment 282) : Lol, bit rich talking mediocrity, given the Sharks current form. You forget, there was a time not so long ago, when the Cheetahs had the Sharks number in CC. Think we went 10 matched home and away unbeaten.
To answer yo, I don’t defend HM as much, as that I find people to be a bit naive with the issues facing a bok coach. Who would you have had replace PdV??
At least there are signs of the books playing a better brand of rugby. HM has had a torrid year with injuries. Everybody claiming that someone should be a [email protected]pastorshark (Comment 287) : Not what I am saying. I am saying that just like some people claim that HM would have spun a story, so would some on here. If Lambie played well, as he thankfully did, it would be “See we told you!” If he didn’t it would be because HM never gave him a fair [email protected]CS (Comment 283) : I have no issue who plays 10, I am not the coach, I just want the boys to play to their potential, and win the damn WC. If I could, I would go dust Henry Honiball off, and clone him with Jannie de Beer 😆
@pastorshark (Comment 287) : I think its a bit harsh to judge Pollard right now. The lad is still wet behind the ears. Would love to see him under the tutelage of a coach like Hawies Fourie, or Ackers that encourages expression. Pollard has done well as junior, and needs to be given space to grow without all the vitriol levelled at him. He didn’t pick himself, nor does Lambie not pick himself.
Competition will be for=erce going forward, as theirs a plethora of young 10’s making an impression. Tina Schoeman is playing a polished game right now too.
@KingCheetah (Comment 289) : Good point about the Sharks being mediocre, but I’m certainly not used to it yet.
@Ben (Comment 291) : Lol, it’s frustrating, but I have kind of learnt to understand, that I can’t control things at the Cheetahs, so It is not as bad as when I was younger.
Sharks have the money, so should son be back to winning.
With my Cheetahs, it will always be a labour of “love” 😆
It’s pretty clear that Meyer has bigger challenges facing him him than deciding on his starting flyhalf. If all the upcoming internationals were friendlies though it would be smooth sailing from here on out 🙂
@benji (Comment 286) : so pleasentell us who is the perfect 10 in your opinion?!?! Goossen or Morné?!?!?! Lambie is the best of the current 10’s in SA!!!!!
@KingCheetah (Comment 292) : ja boet still hate it when Sharks lose but now as I get older I just stand up and leave rather than wanting to break the TV as I did when I was younger!!!
Screaming at the tv only makes the wife cross it does not change how the team plays ;-D
@KingCheetah (Comment 289) : I must agree the whole waybthe Bokke played changed this year and must say I’m glad but I just think he changed it a bit late maybe he should have started it last year!!!!
@JD (Comment 294) : Ag man…he’s not just the best of the current lot, he is a bloody good flyhalf. What does “he’s not a proper 10” even mean?
@pastorshark (Comment 297) : It means this guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
Lambie ….in my opinion, brings a sense of calmness and composure that Pollard does not bring as yet. Pollard had quite a few kicks charged down so far, that really concerns me…..Lambie is shorter and gets the ball onto the foot quicker when necessary. With those small in goals in Argentina I bet a couple of Pollard clearnces may have been charged down again? The reality is this Lambie display , for me anyway, was very important as it will hopefully keep M Steyn in his rightful place, watching the WC from the stands….
@grant10 (Comment 299) : Agreed…but you had better not display your Sharks bias quite so obviously!
@pastorshark (Comment 300) : I try not to be too biased….have and always will be a WP/ Stormers and Boks supporter, but just want to see SA teams embracing a more positive mindset and M Steyn certainly epitomises what we do not need in our rugby…..
@JD (Comment 294) :there is no perfect 10 but on SR form the best in SA is Elton,Bambie has been playing at 10 for a long time and been given endless chances at 10 over the last six years ,wether in SR or for the bokke and seriously ,for me Elton and Faf should be 9 and 10,I on this site have already traversed Bambies shortcomings as a proper 10 ,but hey the smoke blowing on this site is unbelievable
@pastorshark (Comment 297) : he definitely is not the best of the current lot Elton is and he showed it in SR
Just my thoughts…Schalk Brits offered a lot more than Strauss who was pretty pedestrian. Brussouw not that effective again. Lambie had a great game i believe BUT he struggled with the slow service (not solely a Pienaar issue as our forwards are very inaccurate at rucks etc) and also DeAllende had a poor game outside Lambie…DeAllende is a good player but he must realise he cant bash through everyone every time so must also learn to pass and link up. We cant create a ruck or maul every time the ball gets to 12. Thought Lwazi was good and Kirchner very stable at the back. i also thought Lambie looked more comfy when Serfontein came on.
This Saturday showed me that Brits is our second best hooker. Bismark to start with Brits off the bench. Brussow and Alberts were very good. Looked more balanced. When Vermeulen and Coetzee is fit our loosies should be 6. Brussow 7. Alberts 8. Vermeulen with Coetzee on the bench. Mvovo is a must at wing. He had a great game and his strength and pace will only benefit SA. Lambie is miles ahead of Pollard. Pollard is at best the 5th or 6th choice in SA. Pienaar is too slow at the ruck and kills momentum.
@Mutley (Comment 305) : Do you really think Brussouw had a great game? He made a few tackles, which is what id expect from any loosie but other than that i dont see any value. If you think Pollard is 5th or 6th best in SA you def dont watch too much rugby
@KingCheetah (Comment 279) : If you have a problem with us here then Id hate to know what your reaction would have been to the crowd that I found myself being forced to watch the game with on Saturday. I was away from home and had to watch the game in a public place, not a pub but a pretty nice spot, anyway you will not believe how a large portion of the crowd were supporting the Argies and were really hoping for another win and the derision which spew at Meyer and the Boks. I only lasted until half time.
@benji (Comment 302) : Wow…ok…we see things differently then…
@benji (Comment 302) : But don’t me…I’m only blowing smoke…
@SheldonK (Comment 304) : I thought Brussow was a lot better this week and actually quite effective…
@Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 307) : Wow, sounds like a classy bunch…
@pastorshark (Comment 309) : except on Sundays,well hopefully not
HAHAHAHA Lambie is not a proper 10? HAHAHAHAHA
http://www.specsavers.co.za/page/eye-test/free-vision-screening
If you believe that then please click the link, I am really worried about you.
@benji (Comment 302) : I agree with you Benji…..I would have at the very least given Faf and Jantjes a full game for Boks…they may well have cemented the positions as there own, sadly Heyneke had his own ideas…..I am just relieved that heyneke did not play M Steyn, but Jantjes and Faf can feel very aggrieved and let down in my opinion….
Lambie , Pollard and Jantjes to WC…..
@pastorshark (Comment 310) : The setting, the venue, the chairs, the decor, the large screen tv, they were classy but ssadly thats where it ended.
@grant10 (Comment 315) : I will bet all my money it will be Morne, Pollard, Lambie
@pastorshark (Comment 310) : He was better as he is more match fit. But i still dont see the value he is adding above another loose forward that is a more effective ball carrier and/or lineout option. Im not saying Brussouw was bad just that like Kirchner and Matfield he was decent but not much more than that. Im just not sure how much of a role a pure fetcher will play up North where the fields are slower and its more about bodies to the breakdown than 1 guy trying to be effective. I would have liked to have seen PSDT replace Brussouw and see how him, Alberts and Schalk would have operated
@Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 307) : Luckily I was spared that drivel….Don’t have a problem as such, more bemused.
@KingCheetah (Comment 319) : Hmmmm very interesting, and yet the views of biased Sharks supporters on a Sharks fan site get your goat. Maybe you are a troll after all. 😈
@SheldonK (Comment 318) : Cannot agree at all….would hate to go into any WC game without either M Coetsee, Brussow or F Louw at openside….it would be suicide against the top teams….its not going to be slow and low over there….its going to be firm and quick….
@grant10 (Comment 321) : For me both Coetzee (ball carrier) and Louw (lineout option) offer more than Brussouw. The Bok game plan relies on big forwards to blow open rucks to get quick ball as our technique isnt great and we create a lot of rucks…for me Brussouw doesnt get us quick ball. A Pure fetcher hasnt really been effective for the Boks in NH of late…we have struggled as our forwards havnt been able to get past the ball and thus create quick ball.Unless Coetzee and/or Louw are serious injury doubt Brussouw is more a luxury to take than a neccessity
@SheldonK (Comment 322) : The weather should be a lot better than normal NH tours….in fact Heyneke says he expects the tracks to be quick !
I’m confused I’m on a site called sharksworld with the catchphrase when the sharks
Are Your World…yet I must not have sharks bias? How does that work?
@grant10 (Comment 323) : That is interesting as i dont think they playing in 1 stadium with a roof? Also im not exactly sure of the grounds they will play on but most if not all are clubs grounds shared by both rugby/soccer and sometime rugby league as well…and ive seen how those pitches cut up and get bogged down after some use. Im not saying he is wrong as hopefully he has done more research into it than me…i just have a feeling that teams that get forward dominance in the collisions will have the luxury of being able to run it a bit out wide…but playing a running game in general- cant see that happening.