Kings latest

Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content, Super Rugby on 11 Dec 2015 at 17:33

Hi Sharks fans! The latest news is not that detailed, but in a nutshell here it is:

· Luke Watson has NOT been offered a contract.

· The Kings players offered contracts have accepted. The alternative being that the Pumas would play Super Rugby in their place. Caught between a rock and a hard place, the poor players had to accept a massive salary cut to ensure their livelihood. I know people will see this as betraying their poor uncontracted fellow players, but let’s be serious, people have to survive.

· The contracted Kings players will receive their outstanding EPRU salaries as part of the deal.

· The uncontracted Kings players will still have to rely on the EPRU for their outstanding salaries.

· There are about 20 odd players who have been offered Super Rugby contracts.

As always, watch this space.


  • Just shocking. ..those poor players I feel for them!

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.12.15 17:50:09 by Sharkfinn Reply
  • Really can’t blame them for signing, but is still bad for the uncontracted players

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.12.15 17:55:20 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 2) : they did the only thing they could and I cannot possibly judge them for doing so.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.12.15 18:27:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Personally while I can see why they did it, I would have rather they heald out. At the end of the day EPRU walk away scott free and Watson dives back into his money like Scrooge McDuck.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.12.15 18:46:40 by Seth101 Reply
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  • 17 players were going to be offered contracts, Luke was part of the initial 17. Now 20 players are getting contracts and Luke isn’t there. Willing to bet my house that Luke forfeited his reduced package for 4 more players. Did a simple sum and concluded that the package being offered is peanuts and would rather go down as that guy. Besides, his family has lots of thom.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.12.15 19:01:36 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • I never had a issue with us expanding SR by adding the japanese team, the Arg team and the Kings

    but this whole deal with the Kings saddens me to no end, I still figure they will have a decent squad in say 4/5 years or less, this is south africa we produce quality rugby players like brazil produce football players, and eventually they will be able to pay decent salaries, but this could have all been avoided is EPRU just did its job and prepared for super rugby and every possible eventuality, heads must roll. Clearly the powers that be dont know how lead out in EP, until I actually see the ep final squad then I can predict just how much they will struggle, all this disruption certainly doesnt help

    It’s unlikely I’l putting Kings players in my fantasy league team

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.12.15 19:36:16 by revolverocelot Reply

  • Currie cup announcement just been made for 2016

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.12.15 19:57:51 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 7) : yes I know.

    I’ll get it up on monday

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.12.15 21:05:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 6) : bit of a fallacy that SA produces rugby players like Brazil in soccer mate. If we did, why don’t we win more (like Brazil)? We don’t have enough quality for 5 Super teams let alone 6. Four Super teams would be our level I reckon, and even then if you think back to when we had 4 in S12 we hardly covered ourselves in glory.

    There is no place for 6 SA teams. Lets not kid ourselves.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.12.15 21:37:14 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • Ai…

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.12.15 22:13:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 7) : @robdylan (Comment 8) : Given what was speculated in the media there is enough to like about the proposed Currie Cup format…together with one or two concerns…

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.12.15 22:22:01 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 9) : same argument could be used with re: to new zealand if tonga,fiji and samoa was taken out of their superrugby feeder system.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.12.15 22:41:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 6) : simply brilliant,best sarcasm I have read in a long time

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.12.15 23:23:09 by benji Reply
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  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 9) : brazil produce fantastic football players all the time, so much so that some really good ones never even make it into the national teams, and some even feel they stand a better chance of playing regularly at national level if they went and played for a different country. And Brazil dont dominate all the time dude, they go through peaks and valleys like all teams even with so many good players. The number one rated team on the planet right now is belgium, and they have a ton of really good young players now cause 10 years ago they revamped their whole youth national team setup, in fact the whole youth team setup in the country. Germany are world champions, spain before them. There have been many many more football world cups than there are were rugby wc’s. Chile are the south american champions not brazil.

    When you look at win percentage of competitive games of brazils football team and the boks, its likely very similar, football teams play a lot more friendlies though, a friendly game of england vs brazil at wembley is fun but neither coach gets killed if they lose. But test match of wales vs boks at the end of year tour, which ever team loses it results in a crysis

    so lets see, produces quality players in number like no other nation, poor local economy mean most if not all best playerx play some of their career overseas, national team is always expected to win every competitive game (read all games in rugby), dispite producing so many quality players still gets out thought by nations that put more thought into their game plan

    we’re the brazilians of rugby, we could dominated for centuries on end, if we weren’t shooting yourselfs in the foot so often

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.12.15 00:00:06 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : agree 100%!!! Having food on the table for the wife and kids will always be the only option, but that said I really feel for the players who will receive no money before Christmas!!!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.12.15 00:20:57 by JD Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 7) : @robdylan (Comment 8) : there’s a whole article on it on SuperSport website.
    Basically no more Vodacom Cup with Currie Cup starting in April to see who will play with six Super rugby teams in Premier division. Also Namibia National side will be part of Currie Cup (wonder how this will impact on players like Bothma and others?).
    Another change is only six Super rugby teams and Leopards will be playing under 19 and under 21 rugby, rest will only play under 20.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.12.15 00:39:38 by JD Reply
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  • The appointment of Fleck as Stormers head coach for Super Rugby 2016 speaks volumes about the number of decent South African rugby coaches. Almost none.

    From Eddie Jones to Robbie Fleck! I can’t quite help feeling a little glee at our wannabe rivals

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.12.15 10:06:21 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • Makes our own moron, Gary Gold seem like a seller of brand new cars straight off the showroom floor by comparison!

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.12.15 10:07:26 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • Grant 10 must be a little unhappy. Just a little I’d guess…

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.12.15 10:08:14 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • It doesn’t appear that John Mitchell is too desperate to coach then… or if the rumours are true about a player revolt at the prospect of Mitchell arriving, I hope “good old Fleckie” is a real bud to the players and makes them all feel special and warm inside.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.12.15 10:30:52 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 14) : ok Jurie its enough now

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.12.15 11:00:29 by benji Reply
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  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 20) : perhaps its more to do with the fact that once a netball player always a netball player,JM knows this and won’t go near them,Eddie luckily found this fact out and look how quick and far he ran

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.12.15 11:05:34 by benji Reply
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  • Fleck Stormers HC……..well no surprises. I am gutted with this decision. WP/ Stormers are once again showing a lack of ambition and are prepared to take winning Conferences as opposed to winning the Superrugby title.
    Well, from my side , after 39 years of loyal support, I can now sadly and with a heavy heart say I am done. I no longer consider myself a WP / Stormers supporter.
    It is not an easy call to make. Heaven knows a large part of my life revolved around Newlands and the rugby weekends. But I simply cannot stand the mediocrity and lack of ambition these so called administrators show.
    I wish them all the best…..but my time and money is going to be better utilised.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.12.15 11:33:19 by grant10 Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : Ajex Capetown your new team?

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.12.15 13:28:17 by JD Reply
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  • Ag shame poor Luke without shyster daddy running everything he doesn’t get the highest contract or any contract. ..

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.12.15 19:09:30 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 25) : This must mean cheeky ain’t in control of the purse anymore. ..

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.12.15 19:10:10 by coolfusion Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : you’re such a drama queen!

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.12.15 19:43:45 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 27) : hahaha most Stormers fans are. ;-P

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.12.15 22:55:19 by JD Reply
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  • All this makes me very worried about rugby in this country.

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.12.15 02:26:42 by Den Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : Coaches come and go so do players. No need to abandon your union. I’m sure fleck was just a stopgap after Eddie dropped them and Mitchell is unwanted by the players. Hang in there.

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.12.15 09:20:27 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 27) : And there I thought your Gold must go was dramatic ……

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.12.15 10:59:07 by grant10 Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 30) : Wont and dont want to have anything to do with the Prima Donna 15…..weak bliksems ….

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.12.15 11:00:03 by grant10 Reply

  • Fact that the Sharks don’t even have one player in the 7’s set up speaks volumes about the type of player the Sharks find attractive. No surprises why our brand is the most boring in SA. It would be nice to get Werner and Speckman.

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.12.15 16:59:26 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • Southern Kings signings (to date): Malcolm Jaer (20, Fullback), Siyanda Grey (26, Wing/centre), JP du Plessis (24, Centre), Stefan Watermeyer (27, Centre), Elgar Watts (30, Flyhalf), Louis Fouche (25, Flyhalf), Shane Gates (23, Flyhalf), James Hall (19, Scrumhalf), Kevin Luiters (23, Scrumhalf), Aidon Davis (21, No.8), Sipato Junior Pokomela (19, No.8), Cyril-John Velleman (20, Flank), Stefan Willemse (23, Flank), Thembelani Bholi (25, Flank), Cornell Hess (26, Lock), Steven Sykes (31, Lock), Tyler Paul (20, Lock/flank), Schalk Ferreira (31, Prop), Tom Botha (25, Prop), Edgar Marutlulle (27, Hooker).

    Players stuck at EP Kings (as far as I know) and without pay
    Albe De Swardt
    Basil Short
    Cameron Lindsay
    Enrico Acker
    David Bulbring
    Dwayne Kelly
    Eital Bredenkamp
    Gary Van Aswegen
    Karlo Aspeling
    Luke Watson
    Marlou van Niekerk
    Martin Ferreira
    Michael Bernardt
    Michael van Vuuren
    Tazz Fuzani
    Ronnie Cooke
    Scott van Breda
    Simon Kerrod
    Sylvian Mahuza

    Plus new recruits:
    James Hilterbrand (Australia), Jurgen Visser (Bulls), Caylib Oosthuizen (Cheetahs), SP Marais (Sharks), JC Roos (Pumas), Mark Richards (Lions), Carel Greeff (Griquas)

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.12.15 06:54:29 by Baylion Reply

  • @Baylion (Comment 34) : no agaba?

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.12.15 07:53:11 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 33) : speckman was at the sharks.

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.12.15 07:54:12 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 36) : And we let him go. Players able to beat opponents with quick feet don’t excite us remember.

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.12.15 08:00:49 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 35) : Agaba and Soyizwapi signed with SARU Sevens Academy and will probably form part of the SARU loan players with some other contracted Sevens Academy players

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.12.15 08:21:06 by Baylion Reply

  • @Baylion (Comment 38) : thanks .

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.12.15 08:35:44 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 37) : wonder how he will do at fullback?

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.12.15 08:39:05 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 37) : Speckman was let go as he was defensively very fragile while he was here. Good on attack though. Having left he spent a lot of time with te 7s and Pumas and improved his defense.

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.12.15 08:43:00 by SheldonK Reply

  • I cant help but look at that Kings squad and think they are heading for a world of hurt when games start. Its basically a watered down version of their CC squad. Sharks could start with a bang and 5pts first up

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.12.15 08:57:00 by SheldonK Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : 😯 Commiserations.
    Considering the make up and rugby politics of WP rugby I really wonder why PDivvy does not get a look in at Province.

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.12.15 09:57:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : I would prefer him to Fleck.

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.12.15 11:11:59 by grant10 Reply

  • I would rather have The Div coaching the Sharks than Gary Glitter

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.12.15 11:19:46 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 44) : No doubt. Why do you think he doesnt get a look in at Province, I mean this is a near crisis situation and even if there were a few issues he one would imagine that he would be a consideration.

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.12.15 12:10:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 46) : …there might be a youtube clip of him burning a wp jersey… 😆

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.12.15 12:17:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 47) : 😆

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.12.15 12:39:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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