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Careful what you believe….


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 24 Feb 2016 at 10:20
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You can tell it’s Super Rugby week, all right…. and with Gary Gold not set to officially name his first team until Thursday, speculation is running wild as to exactly how he’s going to select a match 23 from his large and talented squad.

The latest development, based on a scan of this morning’s headlines, seems to be that Beast Mtawarira is a shoo-in for the team captaincy. This conclusion has been reached based on the amount of media duty that’s been heaped on Beast in the last week, including attendance of the Super Rugby launch event in Joburg and also the weekly press conference, where he will sit alongside Gold tomorrow as the coach explains his selections. The thought that the Sharks might be intentionally shielding Marcell Coetzee from media duties, given his Ulster move, hasn’t crossed the minds of the wise men with pens, so I’d be hasty about jumping to any conclusions about who exactly will lead the Sharks against the Kings this week.

It’s Marcell Coetzee, for my money, but if you want to be sure, wait until Thursday’s announcement.

The same can be said for the composition of the starting team; based on informal reports, it’s quite possible that Mike Greenaway has been sold a bit of a dummy and the “possible team” he reported on Monday could be wide of the mark in several key positions.

All will be revealed tomorrow at around noon local time. It’s going to be exciting, all right!


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  • Personally I’d be disappointed if Mike Greenaway was ‘used’ in some sort of ruse (are the Sharks seriously still doing that?). He’s seems to have a reputation as a journalist with integrity and it’s not cool if that’s been abused here.

    Apologies if I’m busy brewing a storm in a teacup here.

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.02.16 10:28:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 1) : let’s not get too angry just yet.

    Gringo went all out in attacking Smit when Plumtree was fired. I’m not saying he was necessarily wrong, but that’s the kind of copybook blot that doesn’t wash out easily.

    Again, I’m jumping to a conclusion here

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.02.16 10:32:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Can anyone more experienced tell me what it achieves when you juke a team sheet?

    It’s always annoyed me – it never seems to achieve anything other than confuse spectators. Do opposing teams really change their preparation based on individuals? Also, why would we need the edge against the mighty Kings?

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.02.16 10:46:11 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 1) : @robdylan (Comment 2) : today I’m just tired so jumping to conclusions (or to jump at all) seems to close to exercise so I will just wait for tomorrows team announcement!!!!!!!! 😈 😆

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.02.16 10:47:02 by JD Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 3) : I don’t think the team can control what the media choose to write and when you publish a “possible” team, there’s no guarantee that you’re going to be right. Sharks haven’t changed or juked anything here. Team is announced on Thursday

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.02.16 10:49:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Sharks team-announcement might be one of the more anticipated announcements this week. They sure know how to drum up media buzz.

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.02.16 10:51:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @josefgremlin (Comment 3) : “Do opposing teams really change their preparation based on individuals?” Yes.

    For example a team would look to try an disrupt the inexperienced Reinach/April combo, while they would look to defend against the experience Claassens/Joe P combo.

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.02.16 10:53:20 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 3) : in certain positions like 9 and 10 certain player will determine how a team will play eg kicking or attacking running rugby so knowing who plays could change the way you prepare a bit so as to defend against that specific style of play, however for me it should not change the team you select to play against them.

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.02.16 10:53:25 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Fair enough regarding Greenaway but surely these team announcement ‘tactics’ come across as a little juvenile anyway? (Not only referring to this week)

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.02.16 10:54:43 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : Team is only being announced tomorrow. Greenaway possibly attended some training and wrote the possible team down who ended the practice together. There was no funny business from the sharks here.

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.02.16 10:57:12 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 10) : Not just referring to this week’s upcoming team announcement.

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.02.16 11:00:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : Personally I feel even if it is a tactic, I like it. Any disruption, even minor, is good. Especially to the headless chicken that is Kings rugby.

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.02.16 11:00:23 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 12) : Maybe you’re right and I’m just peeved that I sometimes don’t see the real team sheet prior to kick-off. I’m happy to consider that it could boil down to nothing more than personal inconvenience. Just happy that I don’t play fantasy rugby in that case.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.02.16 11:05:48 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : for me I also don’t like this games around team announcements. If you’re waiting to see if a player will be fit or over an injury it’s one thing but to just delay the announcement or change the run on team just to “confuse” opponents is silly as I can’t see it having a lot of influence as to who they will pick to play!!!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.02.16 11:06:00 by JD Reply
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  • I think announcing Coetzee as VC and then now not letting him captain would be a bit of a slap in the face for the guy. (It does however send a strong message that they want players to stick around long term). Also and i may be mistaken but Beast was never mentioned as a VC or anything…so the big jump now would indeed be interesting- has Beast ever captained a side? School side perhaps?

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.02.16 11:10:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • 😈

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.02.16 11:21:14 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : I think it’s very unlikely that Marcell won’t captain the team on Saturday

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.02.16 11:23:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : think you might be spot on when you mentioned shielding Marcell from all the Ulster questions. Beast is a senior player and seems well spoken so he can handle it before the game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.02.16 11:35:16 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : I f I was Gold,and thankfully I am not,I be doing everything I could to make sure Marcell was happy and totally motivated to give us the very best he can for the rest of his tenure with us.He is probably in the ten best rugby players of the world at the moment and we are very blessed to have him aboard.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.02.16 11:43:55 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : I would agree- especially after how he captained in France

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.02.16 11:55:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 19) : now that’s the truth and nobody can deny it!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.02.16 12:23:57 by JD Reply
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  • Can’t wait for tomorrow!!!! :mrgreen: 😛 🙂

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.02.16 12:28:10 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 22) : i second that! 🙂

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.02.16 12:40:34 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 13) : Dude, sometimes at Kings Park, we would all be seated in the media box ready for kickoff when only they give us the final team sheet

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.02.16 13:24:26 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 24) : when did you do media duty at KP?

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.02.16 13:38:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : Every home game.

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.02.16 13:46:54 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 26) : for which publication?

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.02.16 13:55:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Rugby15

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.02.16 13:56:21 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 28) : oh cool 🙂 Didn’t realise that.

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.02.16 13:57:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : Haha yeah, it keeps me close to the rugby scene, just the way I love it, but not nearly as close as you are to it all.

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.02.16 14:01:18 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • I was always under the impression that Greenaway had some inside line at the Sharks which is why “he hardly ever gets it wrong”.

    So if he gets this one horribly wrong, I wonder why?

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.02.16 14:13:47 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 31) : I think we’re all asking the same question

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.02.16 14:32:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : There would be a horrible taste, just a little mind you, if he was sold down the river I feel. His journalistic credibility could be affected.

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.02.16 14:41:32 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • ok, ignore everything I just said about captaincy

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.02.16 17:14:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : 😀

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.02.16 17:25:43 by 50shadesofshark Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : ???????

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.02.16 17:39:16 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 36) : my comment 17 was wrong. I guess I’m human after all! 🙂

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.02.16 18:56:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : ok so without saying anything I take it our captain was not born in Durbs but rather say maybe Zim?!?!

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.02.16 19:08:52 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : hahaha guess now you know how Greenaway must feel?!?! Hahaha

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.02.16 19:11:51 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 38) : yes.

    @JD (Comment 39) : I jumped to the conclusion all by myself, so can’t blame anyone else. Live and learn in this game and I’m learning all the time

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.02.16 19:28:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • Sometimes our rugby okes in SA are just plain dof. I’d like to hear the reasoning when announced.

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.02.16 19:57:16 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : must say (and this is only my view on it) I really hope this was something that was initiated by Marcell and not by the coach because of him signing with another team!!! If this was not done properly it really could have a negative influence on him and the team that the Sharks really don’t need now.

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.02.16 20:02:19 by JD Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 41) : you might find that there’s no reasoning to announce. The Sharks never actually announced that Marcell would be captain in Pat’s absence. We just all assumed it.

    Let’s see what is said tomorrow, but regardless of what is said, we should get behind the team and the captain.

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.02.16 20:02:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 41) : ja this could be interesting indeed!!!!

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.02.16 20:04:06 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : oh for sure. We will be behind them regardless, and Beast will be fine.

    My point was if it is because he’s leaving at the end of the campaign it would be typical SA mentality (which usually sees us make life as hard as possible for ourselves). There should be no correlation between the two.

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.02.16 20:07:46 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : trust me I’m also 100% behind the team and Beast (and as a Sharks icon it’s well deserved) but I must also agree with the comment @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 45) : and hope it was done in the correct manner. But let’s not speculate and rather wait for the official team announcement tomorrow as I’m sure all will be explained then!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 24.02.16 20:15:11 by JD Reply
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  • Hi all. With Super Rugby starting again this weekend (Go Sharks!) it is also time to get the various fantasy leagues going again. Join me in the udt fantasy league for a fun challenge. Go to this webpage http://www.udt.co.za/superrugby/restricted/MyLeagues.j and enter this code to join the Sharksworld private league I’ve set up: 16163106841903
    If you have played on udt before simply login and do the above. If not, then register for free before you can do the above.

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.02.16 20:55:01 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Is anyone else doing the Fox Sports fantasy this year? I want to create a league and I have one other person but would love others to join. Is anybody keen? Unless you are already doing it, Rob…?

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.02.16 21:11:30 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 48) : I’m doing it…

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.02.16 21:55:14 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Man, I really thought Marcell captained well in France. He was passionate, not afraid to interact with the ref and led by towering example. So I don’t really understand why they would not go with him… 😯 #befuddled

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.02.16 21:56:52 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 50) : Might be that Marcell asked to be relieved also, to avoid any upcoming questions about the Ulster move, to enable him to concentrate and give more than his 100%,for one last season at our beloved team

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 49) : Do you have a league?

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.02.16 00:16:11 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 52) : Not a Sharksworld one…but one with some mates…
    Does anyone know whether is a Sharksworld one?

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.02.16 01:03:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • anyone doing superbru?

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.02.16 01:24:55 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • Fir those who want to stream vipbox will have the stream.

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.02.16 07:00:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 54) : Yup…I’m doing Superbru…

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.02.16 07:07:38 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 54) : yes already there!

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.02.16 08:37:34 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 56) : @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 54) : Are you doing Sharksworld group, can’t find you?

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.02.16 08:44:34 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 53) : I was thinking of creating one for people on here if Rob isn’t doing it this year. Obviously I wouldn’t call it Sharksworld, but the idea remains the same. With you makes 3 that I know of… @JD (Comment 58) : Are you doing it?

  • Comment 59, posted at 25.02.16 10:46:58 by David12246 Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 54) : @pastorshark (Comment 56) : @JD (Comment 58) : @David12246 (Comment 59) : Not sure if you guys are referring to FL or Superbru. The code for the Sharksworld Superbru pool is buskpage. Rich runs it.

  • Comment 60, posted at 25.02.16 11:07:31 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 59) : historically I do not do to good in Fantasy Leagues so I usually bypass them and just do Superbru.

  • Comment 61, posted at 25.02.16 11:37:45 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 60) : I’m already on Superbru.

  • Comment 62, posted at 25.02.16 11:38:25 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 60) : I’m talking about Fox Sports fantasy… 😉

  • Comment 63, posted at 25.02.16 12:13:22 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 63) : Sorry no I’m not doing Fox Sport fantasy league.

  • Comment 64, posted at 25.02.16 12:22:02 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 60) : thanks, I have applied for membership

  • Comment 65, posted at 25.02.16 18:16:26 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 65) : @vanmartin (Comment 60) : @pastorshark (Comment 56) : what’s your names on Superbru I want to check how your doing? OK I’ll be honest I want to check if your beating me. 😆

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