April starts in Dunedin

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 20 Apr 2016 at 10:59
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Gary Gold has made a number of rotational changes to the Sharks team ahead of Friday’s Super Rugby clash with the champion Highlanders. Garth April starts his first match at flyhalf in perhaps the most significant of these.

Gold has opted to make do without Paul Jordaan and Daniel du Preez this week, as both are carrying minor injuries and has thus moved JP Pietersen from wing to outside centre. Odwa Ndungane starts in the number 14 jersey in a third change to the back division.

Philip van der Walt moves from open side flank to number 8 in place of du Preez, with Keegan Daniel starting for the first time this season in the number 6 jersey. A rotational change in the front row sees Coenie Oosthuizen start at tight head prop.

Chiliboy Ralepelle is set for his first taste of action, replacing Kyle Cooper as the hooker on the bench. Jean Deysel also comes into the 23 for his first taste of Super Rugby action in 2016.

Sharks: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Garth April, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Philip van der Walt, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Keegan Daniel, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Etienne Oosthuizen, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Beast Mtawarira (capt)
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19 Hyron Andrews, 20 Jean Deysel, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Joe Pietersen, 23 S’bura Sithole


  • Doesn’t sound good for Kyle, maybe his last time playing for the Sharks ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.04.16 11:01:55 by Grasshopper Reply
  • Good, although Coenie starting boggles the mind

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.04.16 11:02:23 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Looks like they were reading your site Rob :mrgreen:

    I like the look of these changes and hopefully it will give the team the necessary catalyst they need to put in a good performance.

    Timing bad though, got meetings Fri morning ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.04.16 11:03:11 by stevovo Reply
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  • Coenie at tighthead isn’t working Gary, play him at Loosehead.

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.04.16 11:03:33 by Grasshopper Reply

  • i must say I like this team…would rather have Sithole at 13 and JPP 14, then Odwa benched

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.04.16 11:05:51 by DuToit04 Reply

  • Strong bench that. Not sure what i think of the starting side…yes good players all over but bit unsure on some of the combinations. We should at least get some good impact off the bench which perhaps we have lacked of late…although the bench will need more than 5min to make an impact

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.04.16 11:07:30 by SheldonK Reply

  • ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ‘ฟ WTF is it with Coenie at3?!

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.04.16 11:08:50 by KingRiaan Reply

  • Ettas needs a rest too and soon. Coenie may go better with Lewies at lock behind him.

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.04.16 11:11:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 7) : He was singed as a TH so if he plays thats where its gonna be.

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.04.16 11:18:10 by SheldonK Reply

  • Like the changes, but Ettas needs a rest too though. Stoked for April! Hope he makes the most of his chance. Coops dropping out of the 23 altogether? Sheesh ok.. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ
    Also, would have preferred S’bu at 13 rather than JP… Why do we insist on selecting players out of position?? Blows my mind..

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.04.16 11:18:24 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 5) : Agreed, Sithole was fast becoming the best outside centre in South Africa. Now he is being kept out for a loyal player who is unfortunately 2mins from retirement

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.04.16 11:22:33 by jdolivier Reply

  • Very happy for April, looking forward to see what he can do with enough time on the pitch. Can’t get Coenie being picked though. Overall, not a bad side, hope Sithole gets more than 20min.

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.04.16 11:23:07 by Quintin Reply

  • @jdolivier (Comment 11) : Odwa taking his place im the team, not necessarily his position. Not to ve vague

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.04.16 11:23:21 by jdolivier Reply

  • YES! My prayers have been heard (mostly)! I can’t wait to see what April can do for us and I think Daniel will add so much value. I would also have dropped Esterhuizen, but I’m sure most of you will disagree with that. I’m not sure I see why Coenie is starting again, but perhaps his scrumming has improved in training; we don’t know. Overall, it looks pretty decent. I’m glad Gold has it in him to make the necessary changes and take risks.

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.04.16 11:24:22 by David12246 Reply

  • Another thing, our little experiment with Willie as first receiver seemed to be working well, hope they try it again a few times.

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.04.16 11:24:49 by Quintin Reply

  • @DuToit04 (Comment 5) : @Another Nick (Comment 10) :
    I prefer JP at 13, rather than Sbu, mainly in terms of the ability to offload and distribute.

    Sbu always seemed a better wing to me than centre as he seems to hold on to the ball too long at 13, and tries to go himself the majority of the time instead of looking to see who may be running off him or get it out wide quickly when needed, etc

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.04.16 11:25:58 by stevovo Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 16) : Have to disagree mate. JP is nowhere near as good a 13 as S’bu. Sure, maybe he needs to work on his offloading a bit, but he is strong, fast, run to the gaps and a great finisher.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.04.16 11:32:28 by Another Nick Reply

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  • When will coaches learn, a prop or lock cannot just be swapped around. People naturally have a stronger side, be it left or right. So when scrumming you cannot just swap over. When scrumming on your weaker side you actually feel a little spastic. It’s showing with Coenie. They should also stop the experiment with Thomas, he is a loosehead. Tighthead is a very difficult and technical position that needs to be played by a player who has played it since starting the game….

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.04.16 11:40:26 by Grasshopper Reply

  • Super amped for April. Hope he grasps it with both hands. JPP was the best 13 in the Japanese league so hopefully that will motivate him. I also would have preferred Sithole in 13. Lets hope we retain possession better (as was emphasized by GG in the week) and play some rugga ourselves instead of defending for 60 + minutes.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.04.16 11:42:45 by Fox Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 18) : Thomas has actually played most of his life as 3, only lately that he has played loosehead.

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.04.16 11:43:20 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @stevovo (Comment 16) : Agreed, Sithole is a wing. And at the moment he is rated behind Mvovo, JPP and Ndungane at wing.

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.04.16 11:44:45 by SheldonK Reply

  • Very happy with the changes, although I would of liked S’buru to start.

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.04.16 11:44:55 by Bump Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 20) : OK, thanks for that. Then he should play tighthead. Although he got pommelled there at the U20 WC. No other tightheads but Adriaanse?

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.04.16 11:45:24 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 23) : TH is a bit of a problem in terms of numbers in KZN. Not too many good ones in SA either. Think thats why guys have been asked to try. A lot of our props are also fairly tall- not the best attribute for a TH.

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.04.16 11:51:56 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : What happened to Marne Coetzee? Although he battled at TH too…

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.04.16 11:54:23 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 25) : Played VC for Maties I believe.

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.04.16 12:01:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : That is Neil “Chippy” Oelofse….

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.04.16 12:04:08 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 25) : @robdylan (Comment 26) : Yeh that rings a bell for me too. Think the Sharks werent seeing much value from him. Tell you what as a young prop there is some serious reward for guys if they can become a good TH. I dont think DuToit will make a good TH…but he can make a great LH. Coenie can be a good TH but he seems to lack the concentration so ends up in bad starting positions.

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.04.16 12:05:20 by SheldonK Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : He is at the Puma’s it seems;

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.04.16 12:07:15 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : Agree, Thomas is too tall for a TH. He will be a Bok LH in the next 5 years.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.04.16 12:08:32 by Grasshopper Reply

  • Glad for April and would love to see what JPP can do at 13 and how Chili goes after his long “holiday”, but really can’t see why Coenie is starting. Pity Sithole is not starting, was really hoping he would get a start.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.04.16 12:09:07 by JD Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 29) : That seems to be the first stop for ex junior sharks players…

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.04.16 12:09:08 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 29) : Tyler Fisher, wasnt he meant to be captaining the Sharks round about now. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.04.16 12:11:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 30) : He is a big boy but still growing into his body hence the niggling injuries. Frans Malherbe went through same thing. If he stays fit he can definitely tour with Boks end of the year possibly. But yeh trying to think of THs that fit the short and stocky mould- think BJ Botha etc…cant think of many

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.04.16 12:11:23 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : Too many injuries…he was at the leopards and starting to show some form…dunno if he is still there?

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.04.16 12:12:52 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : Or the Lions it seems, some like Warren Whiteley thriving there and coming through…

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.04.16 12:14:59 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : @Grasshopper (Comment 30) : yes with Malherbe and Koch TH is seemingly reasonably covered but at LH only Beast is only locally based specialist. Trevor and Coenie needs to pick a side and stick to it. Personally I think both are better at 1 than 3.

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.04.16 12:15:32 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : That is why the loss of Herbst was such a big blow

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.04.16 12:27:26 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 35) : Nope, he is in that Pumas team that Grasshopper posted so looks like he has moved on.

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.04.16 12:27:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : Ah ok cool- think thats possibly a better option for him, guess will see.

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.04.16 12:29:52 by SheldonK Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 38) : Indeed, very under rated. But havnt heard much about him since he left- is he still at Ulster?

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.04.16 12:30:30 by SheldonK Reply

  • @JD (Comment 37) : I dont rate Kock as an international TH.

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.04.16 12:31:00 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : Jip, still at Ulster

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.04.16 12:36:57 by KingRiaan Reply

  • and in other news from the world of rugby, all of New Zealand are in an almighty tug-of-war for the services of coach John Plumtree whilst further afield, Jake White has just taken Montpellier to the Euro Semis for the first time. Ever.

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.04.16 12:39:00 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 43) : I have one of Wors’s Sharks game jersey’s :-). Looking at that Ulster squad, Robbie Diack is another lost KZN grown Saffa,…

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.04.16 12:39:49 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 45) : Ive always liked the idea of a Sprinbok trials where a local based side plays against an overseas based side. Could be very interesting and easy to gauge the comparative strengths . Trying to fit this game in would prove tricky because of Super 10000

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.04.16 12:42:31 by SheldonK Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 44) : And we get Al Coetzee…eish!

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.04.16 12:49:17 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 44) : Look nothing against Al Coetzee as a person, lovely guy. But he just isn’t a rugby mastermind!

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.04.16 12:55:44 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 48) : Which SA coach is a mastermind though? Its not like we can pick foreigners.

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.04.16 12:58:19 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : I think he could be if he’s committed and really goes for it.

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.04.16 13:04:08 by JD Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 48) : Its not the Proteas Im worried about…
    Im talking about Gold who forgets to coach defence one season and setpieces the next season

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.04.16 13:05:50 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 50) : He would need to improve a lot. Time will tell but at the moment i dont rate him.

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.04.16 13:09:50 by SheldonK Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 43) : @Grasshopper (Comment 45) : a couple of players with Sharks connections in the Ulster squad. I miss Ludik and Wors!

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.04.16 13:13:31 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 52) : he looked good last year but seemingly lost form a bit this year.

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.04.16 13:14:54 by JD Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 51) : wonder what the “left out area” will be next year?!?!

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.04.16 13:16:06 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 54) : Its ever since the Argie turned him inside out…hasnt been the same player. He was progressing but that took him 20 steps backwards.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.04.16 13:17:53 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 27) : I confuse Marne and John-Roy Jenkinson all the time.

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.04.16 13:22:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 44) : Is that the same Plumtree that some so disliked that they had to start up Facebook petitions to get rid of.

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.04.16 13:28:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : Same chap…but coaching NZ players now so he is a king.

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.04.16 13:31:13 by SheldonK Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 57) : Ja Jon Roy was at Maties, Glenwood old boy who was man of the match in one game and couldnt utter one word in English at the post match interview – bloody funny it was, what with that name and school background. I just hope he can understand what is written in his text books. Do Varsity Cup students even get text books. ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜ˆ :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.04.16 13:33:45 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : Varsity Cup students get fixtures not textbooks

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.04.16 13:45:16 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : Same guy. And Jake White is the guy who lost his job because the players convinced the bosses he must go, then the same players left…@SheldonK (Comment 59) : I see what youre getting at but not true. When he was coaching here, the Canes were nowhere and we were playing in finals, not trying to figure out the intricate workings of the nr 4 lineout ball.

  • Comment 62, posted at 20.04.16 13:51:57 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : hahaha, seems he has lost some weight! I think you’ll find many Durban and KZN schools now have Afrikaans home language boys to bolster their rugby teams, recruited from the Cape & Gauteng. I was at Westville recently watching the 1st team train and the boys were all Afrikaans speaking..

  • Comment 63, posted at 20.04.16 13:56:42 by Grasshopper Reply

  • I’m worried about JP at 13. He has never shown any spark at 13 for sharks or SA. Also Coenie at tighthead has failed to impress. Other than that some nice experience coming back into the pack. Let’s see if they can prove if there is no substitute for experience as the old adage goes…

  • Comment 64, posted at 20.04.16 13:59:31 by coolfusion Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 62) : The Canes have been both hot and cold this year though. Plum did a lot of good things here but people still werent happy with him and his coaching. Now that he is coaching in NZ we suddenly want him…but if he came back would only be a matter of time before we complained. Sharks supporters seem to enjoy moaning about the coach no matter who he is, unless he can win every game and competition.

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.04.16 14:05:56 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : Joh-Roy highlights, first 2 mins show he isn’t bad in the loose for a TH;

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.04.16 14:08:01 by Grasshopper Reply

  • Sharks squad is good.injury to lambie been crucial.need to recruit smart for next season.no3 more important than lock imo.

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.04.16 14:19:07 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : all true, but what did we settle for? I sure didnt see any of Ireland, Stormers, Hurricanes or Highlanders go for Gold, so to speak.

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.04.16 14:20:01 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 67) : Julian Redlinghuys maybe?

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.04.16 14:23:00 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 68) : And when we got Gold which other coach was willing and able? Remember also Plum was an assistant at Ireland and also now at the Canes, he isnt the man in charge. Im not saying Gold is the best on the planet, but he is learning from mistakes…has boosted his backroom staff and improved signings. A coach cant stop a player dropping the ball though.

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.04.16 14:23:22 by SheldonK Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 62) : You can add to that, the same players who wanted him out, left and joined up with him in Europe. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.04.16 14:25:25 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 71) : Money talks unfortunately…

  • Comment 72, posted at 20.04.16 14:26:48 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @Grasshopper (Comment 69) : was here and left.tough buy now.looking at the stormers.koch and malherbe there.think sharks should go for 21 year old wilco louw.

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.04.16 14:27:49 by 50shadesofshark Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 70) : Jimmy Stonehouse, now that would have been a clever move…

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.04.16 14:28:06 by Grasshopper Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 70) : To be honest, I’d settle for Plum any day over Gold.

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.04.16 14:28:11 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 74) : Wasnt he already contracted in Japan at the time? He had also only got moderate success with a small team so no guarantee he would have made a success at a big union. Taking him on as an assistant would have been a good move though but doubt he would have wanted that.

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.04.16 14:56:15 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 75) : I always thought Plum did well, but he was getting a bit short on ideas and needed some new refreshing ideas- which i thought they could have done by giving him a quality assistant to groom for the eventual job. Hindsight is 20/20 though. As i said i dont think Gold is the worlds best but he has done some good things going into 2016. I dont think the players performances are helping him much to be honest.

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.04.16 14:58:58 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 70) : No a coach can stop his players from dropping balls, losing scrums, throwing skeef etc. Let me tell you, it is ALL about coaching. Look at Maa Nonu under different coaches. No my brother, Im tired of this slapgat attitude John Smit brought here. They are permanently trying to rebuild a house that only needed some renovations. Winning is all. Win or leave. This is a sports team not a tea party.

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.04.16 15:13:09 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 78) : A coach can stop a player dropping balls? Now i definitely have heard everything. I need to upgrade my tv so i can see the coach next to the player on the field helping him close his hands to hold onto the ball. The best coach in the world (although thats a very subjective label) can spend every waking hour trying to teach a player to catch a ball and he may do it every time at practise…if he gets in the game and drops it under that pressure there is bugger all a coach can do, no matter who you are. In your comment you say win or leave…if that applies to the players too the Sharks wouldnt have a side at any level.

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.04.16 15:22:50 by SheldonK Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 62) : How many SR titles to his credit again?

    Same goes for hop-scotch JW….and he would probably have left the Sharks once AC was appointed Bok coach. (same way he left the Brumbies when he wasn’t appointed Oz coach)

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.04.16 15:40:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • How many specialist coaches did Plum employ when he was head coach? Anyone remember the cries for a mental coach, and our lineouts and breakdown under him as head coach – nauseating.

    JW on the other, came with such a massive price tag, we could hardly afford the front desk receptionist.

    At least in Gold, we have someone willing to learn and appoint assistant coaches to fill in where he falls short. And he seems loyal to the Sharks.

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.04.16 15:46:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 79) : Pump the brakes Einstein, you know what I meant.

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.04.16 15:50:43 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 81) : Ja “at least we have someone willing to learn”… Cant you guys see how low our standards have dropped? But anyways I dont want to argue with you guys. Everyone has their opinions.

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.04.16 15:54:51 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 82) : Im not sure what you meant as you said coaches can stop a player dropping a ball. And you said win or leave…which i took to mean anyone who didnt win should leave…which means the whole sharks coaching staff and players…but also those at every franchise barring the Highlanders. So perhaps you didnt mean any of those 2 things

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.04.16 15:55:00 by SheldonK Reply

  • I like the team, except I have to wonder how long before Coenie is pulled again. I don’t have the Highlanders stats on hand, but my impression is that they are one of the better Kiwi scrumming sides.

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.04.16 15:55:51 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @SheldonK (Comment 84) : Hyperbole
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    Common Examples of Hyperbole
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    Your suitcase weighs a ton!
    She is as heavy as an elephant!
    I am dying of shame.
    I am trying to solve a million issues these days.

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.04.16 15:59:56 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 85) : I would have liked Thomas and Adriaanse to be the tightheads and coenie the bench for beast. But I don’t know what shape Thomas is in.

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.04.16 16:03:37 by coolfusion Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 86) : The way you worded your comment it was quite difficult to infer that…remember this is written word so have to take it at face value pretty much. As ive said previously, sharks supporters have become very good at just moaning about a coach constantly for every reason they can possibly think of. So yes we want to win, i can bet you the players and coaching staff want to win probably even more. Unfortunately it seems as though individual errors are detracting from the group as a whole. And having spoken to a guy heavily involved they are just as frustrated with themselves as we are.

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.04.16 16:05:53 by SheldonK Reply

  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 86) : If you meant win or leave as in do or die. Then is not rather an idiom than an hyperbole?

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.04.16 16:07:09 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Bokhoring (Comment 85) : @coolfusion (Comment 87) : Coenie can be a good tighthead BUT in order to do that his concentration levels need to increase a lot as he is often in very bad setup positions and then almost not ready for the engagement and ends up looking retarded. At loosehead you can get away with a bit of a bad starting position as its slightly easier to adjust. Adriaanse is technically pretty good. DuToit less so.

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.04.16 16:10:22 by SheldonK Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 89) : I guess you meant it as in do or die? Shit or get off the pot?

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.04.16 16:12:01 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 91) : i hope he didnt mean do the shit or die on the pot…

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.04.16 16:13:51 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 90) : Well by that logic Coenie should be the replacement. The reason I would like to see the pairing I suggested is so we don’t lose the grunt when replacement I are made.

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.04.16 16:13:56 by coolfusion Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 92) : Is that from India?

  • Comment 94, posted at 20.04.16 16:15:13 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 93) : Look by that logic Coenie should be with the CC side. But anyway…i would have preferred Adriaanse to start. If both DuToit and Coenie bench then you do have a bit of a luxury of letting either one play LH or TH. But i think on the teamsheet you have to designate which is which…i think, could be wrong. Seems Chadwick is the “Rudy Paige” on tour…

  • Comment 95, posted at 20.04.16 16:16:25 by SheldonK Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 94) : If the food was then it could explain a lot…

  • Comment 96, posted at 20.04.16 16:16:55 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 95) : Agreed Adriaanse should start. Not just scrummaging but his workrate is higher gets to breakdowns quicker and probably would do as well in carrying. If required. I fail to see Gary’s logic. How much more must Adriaanse do to take the starting berth.

  • Comment 97, posted at 20.04.16 16:18:49 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 97) : Yeh seems they are reluctant to play Adriaanse. Unless its the pressure to play the highly paid Bok. i dunno. Same goes with a reluctance to play Claasens or any other centres…

  • Comment 98, posted at 20.04.16 16:20:49 by SheldonK Reply

  • When did Chiliboy start training?

  • Comment 99, posted at 20.04.16 16:50:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 83) : Plumtree wasn’t willing to learn, and he had glaring shortcomings in the head coach department.

    Yet Gold’s willingness to learn somehow makes him a weaker coach than Plum.

    And if you want to talk assistant/forwards coach credentials….which one of Plum and Gold has a Lions series win under the belt, as well as an AB white wash?

    So I’ll take the head coach with a willingness to adapt his DOR abilities as his shortcomings become evident.

  • Comment 100, posted at 20.04.16 17:36:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Those hoping that Lambie will bring about a reversal of fortune might be a tad disappointed.

  • Comment 101, posted at 20.04.16 20:05:44 by nortie Reply

  • @Ben (Comment 99) : He was allowed to train with the team a couple of weeks before his ban was over 9/10 April. He just could not play any games before then.

  • Comment 102, posted at 20.04.16 20:26:13 by JD Reply
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  • @nortie (Comment 101) : Not a whole lot of quotes from Lambie suggesting that he won’t be fit long before the November tests.

  • Comment 103, posted at 20.04.16 20:39:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 103) :
    Ah, you are right, I must learn to read properly ๐Ÿ˜€
    Hoping to debut and not to return.
    Well hopefully he is back before the June series or at least the RC

  • Comment 104, posted at 20.04.16 20:53:59 by nortie Reply

  • @nortie (Comment 104) : So much dodgy reporting masquerading as truth these day, it’s hard to keep up.

  • Comment 105, posted at 20.04.16 21:28:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 105) :
    That’s the truth, but I can’t blame that for misinterpreting the article ๐Ÿ˜†
    I will rather blame the fact that I’m a Stormer supporter, makes more sense trying to explain why I am dof

  • Comment 106, posted at 20.04.16 21:53:17 by nortie Reply

  • How does someone like Gary Gold actually acquire the position he is in at the moment?? Honestly??

    – Play April against the Champs in their backyard after hardly giving him game time all season.
    – Coenie oosthuizen is the worst TH in the comp
    – Sithole was a revelation at 13 and now you are playing Oupa Pietersen out of position??
    – Reinach is the worst 9 in the comp

    Team should be:
    1. Beast/Thomas
    2. Marais/Cooper
    3. Adrianse
    4. Oosthuizen
    5. Lewies
    6. Daniel
    7. du Preez
    8. vd Walt
    9. Claasen
    10. April
    11. Mvovo
    12. Williams
    13. Jordaan/Sithole (i can’t decide)
    14. JP/Odwa
    15. Le Roux

    and then allow them to grow and play for each other

  • Comment 107, posted at 21.04.16 03:26:34 by pienaar111 Reply

  • Does anyone have any inside take on the Sithole story? On the face of it it doesn’t add up. He’s been ignored and I can’t understand why.

  • Comment 108, posted at 21.04.16 05:42:40 by MikeSebMatt Reply

  • @pienaar111 (Comment 107) : Some of it makes no sense but some is rotation. April ( whom you have included after moaning about Gary doing so) to rotate for Joe who has been going since last year without rest. Jordaan who has the highest tackle rate on the team has to rest. Cooper is out since he needs to test Chili boy sooner rather than later. Coenie I agree should be bench Reinach ditto. Remember the other half of this competition is waiting there will still be much attrition and Thusfar we have not been working so some of it is still trying to get combos right. Sithole as you say has had no game time so why put him in now? It’d a tough call either way but since we rely so heavily on defense we must prefer Pietersen to sithole. We won’t however be holding our breath for a great attack from that part of the field. In my opinion Willie should be next up for a rest. IF we can last well enough to the next half we will need Joe Willie and pat and maybe April too. We will need Jordaan uninjured same with Claasens.

  • Comment 109, posted at 21.04.16 06:16:31 by coolfusion Reply

  • @nortie (Comment 106) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 110, posted at 21.04.16 06:48:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 107) : Hmm…I don’t know whether there is much consistency in your comment:
    – you crap on Gold for picking April…and then include April in your team.
    – you have a go at Coenie and yet include Cooper into your mix. On the evidence of the season Cooper is arguably – using your words” – the worst 2 in the comp…
    – if you count your way through the last two seasons, JP has played far more at 13 than at 14. I’m not so convinced you can still say 13 is him playing out of position. In contrast, Sithole has played far more on the wing than at 13 in the last three seasons…clearly not everyone is convinced that 13 is his position. And I know they have their reasons for that.
    – Bar as little as two or three positions, your team is the current team Gold is actually picking. So maybe we should all do what you say at the end of your comment: Allow them to grow and play for each other…

  • Comment 111, posted at 21.04.16 06:59:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 108) : I think it is relatively straight forward:
    1. He is seen as a wing and not a 13.
    2. He is seen as the fourth best wing after Mvovo, JPP and Odwa.
    His turn will come…just a little bit of patience…incidentally, when his one turn came off the bench this season, he didn’t perform that well. When his turn comes, he will have to grab it with both hands…

  • Comment 112, posted at 21.04.16 07:02:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 111) : Some just love the opportunity to complain about Gold.

  • Comment 113, posted at 21.04.16 07:22:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @pastorshark (Comment 112) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 113) : Bang on with both those comments gents

  • Comment 114, posted at 21.04.16 08:16:21 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 114) : Plus if we don’t rotate now then when? We will have enough to deal with when the injured come back from layoff best take the medicine now. It’s not like we have been performing at peak and this change will hurt our game. The way we have been performing we actually have very little to lose subbing.

  • Comment 115, posted at 21.04.16 08:39:53 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : Look rotating just for the sake of it is not the best idea. The competition is tough on the mind and body so players can get a bit jaded and in need of a rest. You also cannot make widespread changes as that throws any form of continuity out the window and you basically have to start again. So the rotations need to be strategic. Guys that looked like they need a rest after the Blues game were Beast, Eitienne Oosthuizen, Dan Dupreez, Pieterson, Esterhuizen/Jordaan. So do i agree with every change Gold made, nope…but some of them yes.

  • Comment 116, posted at 21.04.16 09:03:09 by SheldonK Reply

  • Happy with most changes here. I’m glad April has got a start. Pietersen hasn’t exactly been brilliant lately and his presence isn’t winning games at the moment either, so I can’t see the negative here. Enough has been said about Coenie, thought Adriaanse had made a big enough statement last week, obviously not. I hope Sithole gets a fair run in the second half and puts glue on those hands as I feel that is the only thing letting him down. On saying that Odwa has been fantastic in the air and with Ben Smith lurking I’d say we need someone like him. JP at centre makes sense but I want too see some fire from him, he can’t bring that disinterested look he has been sporting to centre, hopefully this sparks is interest. Obviously Beast and Oosthuizen need a rest but that’s not to be this week, maybe next.

  • Comment 117, posted at 21.04.16 10:02:45 by Hulk Reply

  • @Hulk (Comment 117) : Pretty much my thinking as well.

  • Comment 118, posted at 21.04.16 10:07:59 by SheldonK Reply

  • @pastorshark (Comment 111) : that is the team i would build up over time given the stock we have. JP is not a centre – he has not performed better than Sithole there. Given how dull we were under Jake White, he was one of the revelations at 13. Saying JP Pietersen – a Sharks legend who has not played near his best since leaving for Japan in 2012 (or ’12?) – is your second 13 is a laugh.
    And honestly I have not seen any of the other 2’s beside Marais. Obviously if Ralepele is anywhere near his best he comes straight in.

    3 of the most important positions (3,9,10) are all different to Gold. I crapped on Gold for giving April his start in this game. He should have started against the Kings in round 1 after that promising preseason. I count, 3-9-10-12-13 all different in that case?? And honestly I’d add Beast to that list as I would play Thomas ahead of him when fit

  • Comment 119, posted at 21.04.16 12:49:46 by pienaar111 Reply

  • @pienaar111 (Comment 119) : This comment is a bit clearer…I guess the “/” in your team have made things a bit confusing because I thought you listed Jordaan as your first choice 13 (so not different to Gold). Gold has also relatively consistently rotated Coenie and Adriaanse, so he is not far off your pick there. Who would your second choice tighthead be if not Coenie? Adriaanse would not play every game, would he? So you have 9,10,12 different…fair comment…
    My response re: JPP and Sburra at 13 was not about arguing who is the better centre (although even in that I see it differently to you…or at least not as clear cut as you make it out to be)…my response was to your criticism that JP is being played out of position…just based on actual playing time in the last three seasons, JP is far more a 13 than Sburra. So either you have to say both are being played out of position at 13 or neither is being played out of position at 13…

  • Comment 120, posted at 22.04.16 07:15:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • And now for something completely different: Given the match 23 we have this week and Jordaan not being part of it due to a niggle…if Esterhuizen is injured in the third minute (touch wood), who will move to inside centre?

  • Comment 121, posted at 22.04.16 07:19:26 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 121) : Good question…i suspect JPP will move inside to 12 with Sithole coming on at 13. They could gamble with a guy like Pieterson at 12 but that is a bit risky. JPP will have his hands full with Fekitoa at 13, who is the best 13 in NZ….if JPP comes out on par or on top perhaps that will say a few things…

  • Comment 122, posted at 22.04.16 08:31:54 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 122) : I think you’re right…

  • Comment 123, posted at 22.04.16 09:05:12 by pastorshark Reply
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