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“Grounded” Sharks plan for Jaguares challenge


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Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 9 May 2016 at 09:34
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Gary Gold has revealed that he’ll take a squad of 25 players to Argentina for Saturday night’s return match against los Jaguares, with the team set to depart Durban on Wednesday.

In his post-match comments, Gold managed to hide his elation after a great and somewhat unexpected 32-15 win over the visiting Hurricanes at Kings Park. The Sharks Director of Rugby was quick to point out that the Sharks absolutely had to stay grounded after a performance like that, pointing out that while the final scoreline indicated a comprehensive win, he felt the Hurricanes had certainly had the better of the first half. While the oft-embattled coach is used to his share of brickbats at these press conferences, he proved equally deft at handling the bouquets this week, pointing out that his team is far from the finished product.

The Sharks are heading into unknown territory this week, with a first-ever game in South America adding further travel to a schedule that has already all but exhausted the squad. Gold has indicated that rest will be high on the agenda, explaining that the players now know what to do and hence taking them through gruelling training sessions this week won’t be as effective as rather letting their bodies catch up. A couple of days’ moderate work in Durban will be followed by a day of travel. A flush-out day on Thursday will be followed by a captain’s run in Argentina on Friday, before the match on Saturday night.

Don’t expect to see anything other than a full match 23, with an extra prop and hooker for the tour, Coenie Oosthuizen and Kyle Cooper are the likely names to be added at this stage, while there’s a decent possibility that the somewhat overworked Etienne Oosthuizen may sit this one out, with Giant Mtayanda perhaps due a start against los Jaguares.


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  • I must say, this game has me quite nervous…doesn’t make sense to travel that distance for a once off game. I’m sure the guys will be focused on the task at hand though. The decision by Mr Gold regarding training makes sense, will be interesting to see how the Ettas’ situation will be approached…

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.05.16 09:51:41 by DuToit04 Reply
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  • Then the other selection conundrum is at 10, wow, I thought Garth was good, he has that element of unpredictability, then when Pat came on, he just slotted in as if he was never out of action – that to me shows pure class! Pat will probably always be my first choice fly-halve and i would like for him to start this week though.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.05.16 10:06:26 by DuToit04 Reply
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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 2) : I like both Lambie and April to each get as much time as possible 😆

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.05.16 10:35:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 2) : April was very good and I was not too happy when I saw he was going to be replaced by Lambie…..I need to have more trust in Lambie because he just slotted in perfectly.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.05.16 10:46:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 4) : Yip, also thought it risky but he is pure class! I do think we are getting back to the time when Freddy and Pat had to be accomdated in same team. Both have to play….

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.05.16 10:57:47 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Make sense to take a few players as possible. Personally I would have also taken an extra back line player just as cover.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.05.16 11:05:10 by JD Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 5) : I would stick with April for the Jaguares game and let Lambie come of the bench around the 50/60min interval, or even half time, except if April has another blinder in the 1st 40, it will just boost his confidence by showing a little faith in the guy by not dropping him immediately after Lambie’s return in the previous match.

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.05.16 11:12:32 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 4) : @Kabouter (Comment 5) : Yah even I was a bit nervous about that sub, but was quickly reassured.
    Can’t put my finger on it but his place kicking technique seems more relaxed and fluid.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.05.16 11:13:54 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Great game, and our reward is another ridiculously long travel…

    Makes sense to start April again – ease Lambie in. I would start Chilli though.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.05.16 12:06:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • The Jaguares away will be a tricky game. Makes sense to pretty much take this side with the extra prop,hooker and scrumhalf maybe. Id start the same side again…making changes for this 1 off away game doesnt make too much sense, it will just disrupt. can rather look at the home games after that to change things up if needed.

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.05.16 12:22:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Ok coaches. ..no holding hands!

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.05.16 12:23:49 by Sharkfinn Reply

     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : ja think it make sense to do it like that and I’m sure Gold will do it like that.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.05.16 12:34:56 by JD Reply
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  • Would love this team for the game on saturday,people who need game time and will be less affected by the travel.
    1.Thomas
    2.Chili
    3.Adriaans
    4.Unavi( shrks xv lock was good on saturday)
    5.Andrews
    6.Khaya (approached the breakdowns with intent and tried winning the ball)
    7.Jean deysel
    8.Keegan(captain)
    9.Ungera (needs game time)

    10.April
    11.Sithole(looks to have sorted out the handling issues)
    12. Jordan
    13.Jp
    14.Odwa
    15.Petersen(for the kicking at poles while lambie is on the bench and more importantly giving willie a rest)

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.05.16 12:36:03 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Sharkfinn (Comment 11) : they can hold hand when the Sharks score but please don’t kiss each other!

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.05.16 12:39:53 by JD Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 13) : personally would love to see Heimar play 12 but sorry to say can’t see Gold going to far from his current match 23 with Coenie and Kyle for extra prop and hooker cover.

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.05.16 12:42:32 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 15) : heimar was dissapointing saturday, I stayed in the rain to watch sithole and him, something doesn’t look right with him

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.05.16 12:47:54 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 16) : really a pity. You must send some of the rain to us we really need it!

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.05.16 12:51:16 by JD Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 13) : Concerned about backup scrummie. Ungerer started on fire last year during SR but fizzled out in CC and hasn’t displayed signs of that form since.

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.05.16 13:00:42 by sudhir Reply

     
  • @sudhir (Comment 18) : His passes are still all over the place. Decent kicking game though.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.05.16 13:05:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 18) : I agree here, Ungerer’s service was slow and passing not great at all, def needs to up his game for SR level it is a concern.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.05.16 13:06:50 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • Personally I would say start the same team bar the following. Rest esterhuizen and Oosthuizen. Start with Deysel Keegan and Daniel dupreez. Start Adriaanse and Chadwick sub Coenie and maybe beast. At hooker give Marais the start and Rallepelle the sub. Also rest Willie entirely and start Joe at Fullback. April to start with Pat to sub at 60 minutes. Giant to go on with Oosthuizen and Hyron with Lewies.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.05.16 13:12:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 20) : are you guys serious. I’m hopeful with what I saw. There was intent. Granted he was not as efficient as Claasens but boy it was still better than the norm from Cobus.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.05.16 13:32:45 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 22) : Im still not convinced by Ungerer’s passing..its very erratic. Im not sure what has happened but at school he had one of the best passes i have seen. Now it looks like he tries to wind up too much and his passes are often very low or way off target. Not sure if he has tried to change technique or something but as scrummy its a worry

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.05.16 13:37:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Rob, thanks for reinstating my posting/commenting privilege. Couldn’t comment the entire weekend. All congratulations have been given to the guys, I just want to say how proud I was of the boys and to be a Sharks supporter on Saturday. Thanks guys. You all had a blinder. That’s the kind of play we want and expect from the Sharks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.05.16 13:38:06 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @coolfusion (Comment 21) : and who plays 12?

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.05.16 13:43:21 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : I saw him get to ruck very quickly and pass, hence I say the intent, yes the pass was wobbly at times but not any slower than Cobus’ pass. I say the accuracy in the pass will come with more game time and confidence. Could have been focusing his energy on getting the ball out quickly and probably ignored the quality. Don’t think it’s something that can’t be fixed. Also remember that he replaced Claasens who was having a blinder. So the standard set was very high. Could explain the various views.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.05.16 13:44:17 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 24) : also struggled to comment sometimes I had to sign out before I could comment. Problem seems to be fixed now.

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.05.16 13:47:16 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 27) : hehehe….I thought my problem was a deliberate sanction. Lol…. thanks for clearing that up.

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.05.16 13:49:48 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 26) : The rest of his game i have absolutely no problem with. Its just his passing and i really think its a technique issue…almost as though he is trying to pass to hard or something. Unfortunately as a scrummy he is first and foremost judged on the speed and accuracy of his pass before anything else he does. And unfortunately on Saturday his passing was pretty bad. Hoping Rob DuPreez can get that corrected

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.05.16 13:52:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 28) : don’t know could have been and I was also under the same sanction?! Hahaha ;-P

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.05.16 13:56:56 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : with the discussion about his game I was thinking that maybe for some reason he’s trying to pass to hard (putting in to much effort to add speed to the ball when passing) as that is usually the reason you loss control and accuracy. With Rob snr and Claassens to help him I do believe it can be sorted.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.05.16 14:00:29 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) :
    You are spot on, and you are also correct about his shining talent as a junior. I thought this guy would kick on quickly, but you are probably on to something regarding his technique.

    I think Reinach has plenty of issues, but let’s not forget the games we have won due to his explosiveness. I have called for Classen to start for some time, but Reinach off the bench can be devastating.

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.05.16 14:01:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : let’s give him a chance. I think there’s a lot to work with there. Also remember that it was his first SR game so maybe tried too hard to impress. Also think it was a technique/timing/nerves thing. Believe it can be fixed.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.05.16 14:03:07 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 33) : It wasnt Ungerer’s first super rugby game, only first one this year. As i said the rest of his game is good but passing for a scrummy is what his entire role is about…so he needs to get that fixed very quickly as it could be costly. I really think its a technique issue as like i said at school he had a bullet of a pass.

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.05.16 14:07:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 32) : Reinach is a very different scrummy to Claasens. Claasens is a low risk and does the simply things well. Reinach pushes the boundaries and does take chances…and it often pays off. His speed is also an asset in both support and defense (when he runs the right defense line). So whilst Claasens is definitely playing well i wouldnt write Reinach off- he is better than Ungerer…well no at the moment as he has a bit of a limp

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.05.16 14:08:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 32) : very true about Reinach. Really hope with Claassens and RdP snr there he will be able sort out his game as he’s a potential match winner when on form!

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.05.16 14:09:38 by JD Reply
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  • I’d probably start Lambie simply because we need as much leadership on the field against the Jaguares as possible. They’re a niggly team and a disciplined performance will win us that game.

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.05.16 14:11:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 35) : hahaha ja boet ;-P

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.05.16 14:14:38 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : @Big Fish (Comment 32) : Yup I noticed that too. Put it down to nerves. Loved his chip kick into the Canes 22.
    Thought Michael was very good and helped by the sheer volume of turnover ball he was getting. From what I’ve seen this season all our 9s know that turnover ball is when to up the pace. I’m not one to subscribe to the idea that 9s should always produce fast crisp clean service. Must play to your teams pace.

    I’m pretty sure the communication from Garth and Pat is a major factor. This, IMO, is the single most important thing in making a scrummie look good. Knowing where and when to pass is more important than the quality of the pass (for the most part). Can’t see what happening behind us so we have to rely on our ears. Joe was outstanding stand in but he’s a natural fullback rather than a natural flyhalf.

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.05.16 14:20:58 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 37) : Same. One thing he has done is put his hand up in a big way. i’d definitely start Lambie, but I would have no nerves about subbing him in and breaking continuity. Same goes for Chilli and Franco.

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.05.16 14:26:19 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 39) :
    You make some good points. However, I have never seen a 9 play at too fast a pace for his team – even if the 10 is not ready, 12, 15 or a loosie can stand at first receiver, and this is normally enough against a flat-footed defence struggling to keep up with quick ball. Particularly with Willie around as secondary flyhalf, I would just want the 9 to focus on upping the pace.

    Regarding Joe; nice guy and a decent fall back 10, but far from outstanding – got to cut Reinach and Esterhuizen some slack for the period they played next to him.

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.05.16 15:05:25 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 25) : Heimar or Jordaan and then bring in JP to 13 with Odwa on wing.

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.05.16 15:25:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 41) : contradicting yourself? You say a 9 can never be too fast for his 10 as there will always be an option to receive the ball at first receiver. Then you basically blame Joe for Cobus’ slow start game? Please clarify. I would actually cut Joe and Andre some slack as they hardly had any momentum.

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.05.16 15:45:40 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 43) : I think we should bear in mind that when Joe was at 10 the sharks were getting beaten up in the tackle and ruck and the ball we were getting wasnt great at all. So very tough to lay blame on just the 9 or 10 for quick ball.

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.05.16 15:52:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 43) :
    I don’t think it’s a contradiction at all. The 10 sets the structure and play on defence and attack, so the players around him are subject to what/how he chooses to play.

    The first issue with Joe was his poor tactical kicking, which put the whole team under pressure (especially 9). The second issue was that he is not a strong tackler, which usually pulls the 9 out too early and prevents the 12 from spreading on defence.

    The third major issue is that he stood deep on attack and seldom varied his play – this does not create space or options for the backline and especially leads to 12 having to often just bash up slow ball.

    This is a harsh asessment, and like Sheldon said, it wasn’t just his fault. I also think we must remember that he is not a 10. He did the best he could in a tough gig.

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.05.16 16:14:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 42) : ja that could work but think Gold will go with the same match 23.

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.05.16 16:26:49 by JD Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 45) : our rucking game was always top class. Our challenge came at lineout and scrums. Momentum isn’t obtained at first phase ball but from second phase ball. Sorry guys, protect Cobus as much as you like. He’s brilliant on defence, cross covering, kicking, support play but at giving us momentum and quality of the pass….it’s a no for me. Just watch the top NZ scrumhalfs and Faf de Klerk. I can assure you Faf isn’t rated the best scrumhalf in the country because of his defence and box kick. It’s his pace and quality of the pass that puts everyone on the front foot when they have ball in hand which is vital for an attacking game plan.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.05.16 16:29:43 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @JD (Comment 46) : Ja let’s watch and see if he rotates early personally I would say the next 2 games are perfect for giving the regular workhorses a rest.

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.05.16 16:35:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 47) :
    Not sure how come you reckon our rucking game was top class. Best indication of that is your and the opponent’s lost/retained possession and that’s been ugly reading this year.

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.05.16 16:45:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 48) : ja I agree with you but somehow I think he will take his strongest available team to Argentina.

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.05.16 16:49:57 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 50) : Fear of losing trumps boxing smart. ..

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.05.16 17:27:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Just my 2 cents worth on the number 9 debate. Claassens is a way better 9 overall than Reinach in my opinion. Probably better at the moment than Reinach will ever be. I fully agree with the Hound on this, I can’t understand how Claassens was forced to sit on the bench while Reinach started. Claassens is pretty old, though, so maybe Reinach can play on the wing (which is more suited to him) until Claassens retires. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.05.16 17:35:19 by Ben Reply
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  • Sorry, I just ain’t a Reinach fan.

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.05.16 17:35:45 by Ben Reply
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  • On a different topic. I watched a bit of the Bulls game at the weekend and oh my gosh, SP Marais is a wreck. I wish him well, but that boy is mentally weak, very weak. Interesting that the Kings decided to give Jurgen Visser a contract ahead of SP. I rate Jurgen even less than I do SP.

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.05.16 17:40:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 54) : SP is so talented, but confidence is a major factor in rugby. It just seems as if he has a mental block.

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.05.16 17:44:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 51) : for sure but then again Sharks are still in with a chance to end above the Lions so victories is also important

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.05.16 18:02:27 by JD Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : so make him another Francois Hougard? Hell no let him play 9 or don’t sign him again.

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.05.16 18:04:38 by JD Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 54) : ja pity as he showed real potential. Really hope he can get it sorted

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.05.16 18:07:35 by JD Reply
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  • Just throwing it out there. Pretty sure everyone here knows I rate Cobus so will avoid a debate on that.
    Regarding Faf, who I rate and have no doubt will be a Bok, I do have some reservations about. He is very quick and accurate which suits the Lions style. However I find him predictable sometimes. My gut feeling is one of the numerous things the Canes exploited was this especially when they were dominated up front. They were able to rush the Lions backs will very little fear of a chip kick, sniping run, or variation of speed.

    This is why I like 9’s who do a bit of everything. Also…

    And ja! I was a scrummie so I do think that we occupy the very epicentre of the rugby universe, all other positions are simply scrumhalf support roles, and that people only become refs because they want one to one rules training and understanding from the best in the business. 😎

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.05.16 18:57:47 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 59) :
    I personally think Faf is getting hyped a bit due to the Lions’success. While he is good, all 9’s look far better off good ball.

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.05.16 19:12:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 59) : hahaha boet sorry to say but why do you think they started numbering the props and hooker 1-2-3 and not with the backs?!?!?! It all starts upfront!!!

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.05.16 20:04:21 by JD Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 60) : @gregkaos (Comment 59) : playing behind a superior pack is very easy for an average 8 and/or 9 to look like super stars but if you play behind a losing pack it takes a super star 8 and/or 9 to just look average.

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.05.16 20:08:20 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 62) :
    Spot on

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.05.16 20:45:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 61) : I always assumed that they did that to make them feel important. 🙂

    @JD (Comment 62) : @Big Fish (Comment 60) : spot on.

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.05.16 20:51:43 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : really can’t blame handling errors on rucking. Our rucking game under the new coaching team has been top class.

  • Comment 65, posted at 09.05.16 20:56:12 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 65) :
    Turnovers conceded and won are not the same as handling errors.

  • Comment 66, posted at 09.05.16 21:11:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 64) : no boet its done in order of importance ;-P

  • Comment 67, posted at 09.05.16 21:55:44 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 61) : I like that…put the little scrummies in their place – such big heads on so tiny a body, it’s bound to get a little top heavy. 😉

    Speaking of tiny bodies, I see the kiwis are talking about McKenzie being too small to play fullback – so much for using him as an example of why Kolbe should play for the Boks.

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.05.16 07:36:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 68) : hahaha ja some of them are just like bobbleheads!!! As for Kolbe and McKenzie they will always be dangerous on attack but when defending they will struggle to stop the big guys so it will be a fine balancing act to decide if and where you play them.

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.05.16 08:26:34 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 69) : Leave the tinies at 9, with the woman and children – the defending of the fort should be left to the men. 😈

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.05.16 09:09:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @gregkaos (Comment 59) : hahaha that last paragraph could only have been written by a scrummy hahaha.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.05.16 09:10:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 70) : @JD (Comment 69) : hahah you guys!

    @SheldonK (Comment 71) : 🙂

    On a lighter note it is what’s makes rugby the best sport on the planet. There is a position for every shape and size.

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.05.16 09:24:37 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 72) : 100% agree. I cannot think of another sport that caters for such a wide range of size/weight and skillsets of players…

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.05.16 09:49:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 72) : ja boet place for all to play even the guys that’s in shape like me (and yes round is also a shape)!

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