Super Rugby 2017: Sharks v Southern Kings

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 18 Mar 2017 at 18:00
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The Sharks’ second home game of the season is against the Kings at Kings Park tonight. Ironically.

Will Rob du Preez’s team overcome some injury setbacks and build on a good win against the Waratahs last week? Or will the plucky Kings unsettle them enough to ensure a scrappy game?

kick-off is at 19h30, so that’s when we’ll find out.

Sharks: 15 Curwin Bosch, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Odwa Ndungane, 10 Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Lubabalo Mtembu (captain), 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Jacques Vermeulen, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Stephan Lewies, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Thomas du Toit.
Replacements: 16 Stephan Coetzee, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Etienne Oosthuizen, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Jeremy Ward, 23 Garth April.

Southern Kings: 15 Masixole Banda, 14 Makazole Mapimpi, 13 Berton Klaasen, 12 Waylon Murray, 11 Alshaun Bock, 10 Lionel Cronje, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Ruaan Lerm, 7 Andisa Ntsila, 6 Chris Cloete, 5 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 4 Irne Herbst, 3 Ross Geldenhuys, 2 Michael Willemse, 1 Schalk Ferreira (captain).
Replacements: 16 Kurt Haupt, 17 Schalk van der Merwe, 18 Justin Forwood, 19 Tyler Paul, 20 Stefan Willemse, 21 Johan Steyn, 22 Pieter-Steyn de Wet, 23 Johann Tromp.


  • Cloete will be a handful, if Sharks don’t clean the rucks it will become scrappy

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.03.17 18:22:42 by pierre_mackie Reply
  • Good win for lions. Never looked like they were in trouble second half they demolished the lackluster reds.

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.03.17 19:13:17 by coolfusion Reply

  • Hope the weather holds up. How’s it looking durbs guys?

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.03.17 19:26:50 by coolfusion Reply

  • Wtf?

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.03.17 20:09:48 by coolfusion Reply

  • Move bosch to FH.

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.03.17 20:15:54 by coolfusion Reply

  • All these errors. What are we doing? We need some direction.

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.03.17 20:18:17 by coolfusion Reply

  • Ben10 has done his early retirement aspirations a world of good today.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.03.17 20:23:08 by Die Kriek Reply

  • What a bloody shitshow! This team is playing with absolutely no maturity. Did all of our maturity come from Lambie?

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.03.17 20:23:17 by Apollo Reply

  • @Apollo (Comment 8) : Our FH is s passenger. Move bosch in.

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.03.17 20:24:18 by coolfusion Reply

  • How kak is this?

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.03.17 20:42:08 by Ben Reply
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  • It’s so kak. How the hell are we confident in our depth?

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.03.17 20:48:57 by coolfusion Reply

  • Ive seen schoolboys handling better than this. Shocking!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.03.17 20:55:08 by Die Kriek Reply

  • Fuck this. I’m turning off. How the hell is this a competitive team?

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.03.17 20:55:50 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : We underestimated a strong underdog and are getting bit

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.03.17 20:56:48 by Die Kriek Reply

  • Cliché #1:Kings dragging us down to their level, and beating us on experience.

    Cliché #2: RdP learning that SR is not Varsity Cup…you don’t give debut caps to noobs.

    Anyone else bored by this game?

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.03.17 20:58:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • 🙄 🙄 🙄

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.03.17 21:08:06 by Ben Reply
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  • Esterhuizen has been a Soldier for us…the guy just keeps on giving….one eye gone, and he’s still going.

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.03.17 21:11:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Bloody disgrace. 😯 🙄

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.03.17 21:19:38 by Ben Reply
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  • Will RdP ever again underestimate a SR team?….a fortuitous escape for all involved….laat dit nou vir hulle ‘n les wees. 😉

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.03.17 21:20:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • And we think we are contenders? ????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.03.17 21:20:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Ben10 starting was the wrong option. We dodged a bullet there

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.03.17 21:22:01 by SeanJeff Reply
  • I can name 14 other teams that would have whipped us to ight, we did not deserve to win, no heart no passion.

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.03.17 21:22:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 20) : RdP made some serious rookie mistakes in the lead up to this game…..seems everyone went on mental holiday, and merely wanted to make the trip to KP for their 5log points. We’re still contenders.

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.03.17 21:24:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @SeanJeff (Comment 21) : Not the kids fault, his scrum half on the night was totally useless etc etc

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.03.17 21:24:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 21) : Just one look at that kid, and I knew he’s out of his depth here. Having the poor kid start with Cobus compounded things, he needed Claasens to babysit him through this game. Massive blindspot on RdP’s side. What was he thinking. (Or, what did he think would happen)

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.03.17 21:28:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • We will struggle big time against the top tier teams. I am shocked at Kings Park crowd booing at Lionel at the end. We need to adapt to same policy as Twickenham does. Respect the kicker.

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.03.17 21:32:42 by Gerhardt Reply

  • can’t face writing a report on that shit. Sorry guys

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.03.17 21:41:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lucky win. What was obvious tonight is that Jean Deysel was only allowed 20 minutes game time in seven matches.Returning from an injury Daniel Du Preez got an 30 minutes run. I rest my case.

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.03.17 21:44:44 by Roy Deysel Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Have to agree Rob, we all forgive you ????????????????

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.03.17 21:44:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Roy Deysel (Comment 28) : Cannot argue with that and also along with Kleinhans the closest we have to a fetcher…..

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.03.17 21:46:39 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I meant “HAD”

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.03.17 21:48:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : totally forgiven! I stopped watching after 60min!!! Was a huge surprise when I saw Sharks won the game!

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.03.17 21:50:20 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 23) : So true Fires, I said to my wife that this team was not mentally prepared at all,

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.03.17 21:50:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • For me there was also no captaincy on the field as Kings mostly offside, Captain not pointing this out to ref. Then we have no idea when to kick at poles and when to go for touch even though we dominated the mails ????

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.03.17 21:54:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Roy Deysel (Comment 28) : personally I think Jean could have given the loose trio a bit of balance! Sharks might regret allowing him to go and play in Ireland especially if the Ginger Giant can’t play!

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.03.17 21:56:41 by JD Reply
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  • Then only looking at the locks? Knocked 10 balls on between them

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.03.17 21:57:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Ginger is the next player to move to the bench as a result of favouritism.

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.03.17 22:11:41 by Roy Deysel Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) : something was wrong with Ruan today.

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.03.17 22:11:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob was taught a serious lesson tonight. Doubt he’ll ever underestimate a team again or over hype an unproven rookie. That performance was shocking. Kings dominated us physically cause we went with a light weight pack against seasoned veterans. And those veterans showed us up. That loose trio was not balanced at all. How, how much I value Ginger.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.03.17 22:20:41 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Eish Rob so true, he has been brilliant this year

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.03.17 22:24:38 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : not only Ruan the whole team was off form today!

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.03.17 22:37:50 by JD Reply
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  • We were lucky to win, very lucky. kings deserved it more on the night.

    many things to address. I still feel the same things as last year in the sa groups will likely go down. lions and stormers win their respective groups and we get third spot head of bulls and possibly argies but the argies do look solid may give us ago for that third spot.

    so hear goes

    ben looked in a tough spot, smile on his face but we didnt do a good job in protecting him during the game by in a way that nz and oz teams do with their youngsters, by placing them in positions to just start off with their strengths. this is one of the respects I agree with a HM philosophy of playing a young player with a core of the first team around him, in this game most of the experience first choose player were not even on the bench. the rain never came but the wind to star with was a issue. after lambie all hour fh optuons has glaring flaws. bosch: talented as heck, but hasnt filled out yet, reminds me of johan goosen when HM though it was a good idea to risk injury by playing him against the ABs. April, talented experienced but lost his place due to breaking team protocal at the start of the cc. Inny Radebe played a blinder off the bench against the pumas in nelpruit in his sharks first team debut in the first game of last years currie cup, but his form suffered as the cc season went on (which also happen to be the time we lost tons of senior players like ginger) and doesnt look thin for his height, in fact he looks seriously build in person. Ben is new to the system at 90kgs and very tall his on to look for but lets allow him to develop, see how he does with the baby boks at the wc, we didnt do him any favours by starting him today. could have debut him off the bench. kings are not great but if you you play into their hands like today they will come for you.

    we some how averted disaster tonight. rob wont be happy. a certain degree of lost of continuity is expect when so many change are done 7 new starts form last week and 9 brand new player to the match 23 with the bench front row starting.

    I never really see captain talk or motivate their players outside of the huddle ? tera had a good game today but as a captain I didnt really see him communicate, but to be fair people we are watching on tv and only see what the camera shows us.

    I wonder how soon ungerer will get game time at the kings, and somewhat surprised our other loan player over their has player yet in the young winger

    I understand Wandile player for them against the stormers

    de bruin also not getting game time at the kings, interesting.

    so disappointed but glad to get the win. its tough being a rugby supporter who believe in using the whole squad cause detractors will point to this as a indication of why you need to player your best players into the ground. but there is a better way to rotate. like not starting a rookie fh with no super rugby experience. even fran steyn (before he got fat) debut in the currie cup, on a friday night if immnot mistaken. I remember fondly when my uncle who supports the lions ran over to say hey did you see that young sharks flyhalf with the long hair his amazing and his built like a tank (I had missed the game)

    another concern in sa is playing talented guys at tok high a level for their build too soon. bosch and that new lions wing tambwe are both 19, but the lions wing looks like a young lebron james, he will be fine playing in sr that early, but to me bosch is thin on tv and when he stands next too you in person cause of his height you realise this oke is even thinner, so we are sort of taking a chance now. he sometimes reminds me of when the stormers were forced to player kurt coleman cause cat and nas oliver went down with injury, way too frail.

    rant over lol. I do love me some rugby

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.03.17 22:39:26 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 39) : problem is the light weight pack is half first choice and half reserves so they should not have struggled so much!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.03.17 22:43:09 by JD Reply
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  • dan looks effective off the bench, jldp tried a lot but couldnt really come alive. Jacque vermualen had a ok game

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.03.17 23:51:43 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @JD (Comment 43) : that wasn’t a light weight pack. Was disappointed in how poor Chili, Lourens, Ruan and Vermeulen were. Lewies and Jean Luc only marginally better.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.03.17 23:55:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • John Plumtree must be chuffed. Flying high with the Canes while the Sharks are down in the dumps.

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.03.17 07:22:29 by Ben Reply
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  • Another glaring fact we played against 14 men for 20 min.
    Our problem started up front, sat near Coennie and watched his reaction most of the match.He isn’t the most animated individual but you could see just where he wanted to be
    Cobus Reinarch behind a retreating pack is dog shit,he slaughtered that kid at 10.
    Then nobody seems to be prepared to give April any due, he changed the game for us.
    He is definitely the best we have after Lambie.
    Then a nasty one but I would love to see the results of the tests on the Kings urine samples, especially Cloete.
    We live to fight another day, and I hope that the fickle on here don’t start turning their venom on RduP.
    I especially galled at suggestion on here that he favors his sons.
    Jean Luc at 20 was the Springbok players players the year last year, this is the only award voted for by the players.
    Before you start chucking mud around consider that.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.03.17 07:24:33 by The hound Reply
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  • I Don’t blame the coach. You could see how many times he threw his hands up as if to say where do they get this this is not what we trained. I don’t think the kings dragged us down I think the guys dragged each other down. April did do better than bjvr but I think for spark Bosch should have been moved up next to Cobus. And how did handling go completely out the window? Even the guys who regularly make the starting lineup or bench? I think they should all get up early and march to the coach and give him a sincere apology for the turd they dished up last night.

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.03.17 08:33:56 by coolfusion Reply

  • @The hound (Comment 47) : April was good, set the team alight when he came on. Would he have been that effective next to Reinach? I dunno.

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.03.17 08:43:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @The hound (Comment 47) : Agreed with most(including the urine samples). I think our big problem here was motivation. The guys looked disinterested in the match and we can’t afford to be disinterested in any SR games this season especially when playing with a few rookies. April did do much better than Ben10. AE was trying really hard to spark the guys into playing with a higher tempo but CR kicked way too many box kicks again, just handing them easy possession.

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.03.17 08:48:27 by Quintin Reply

  • Every team has a bad game, NZ and Eng losing time Ireland on the 19th games. Crusaders losing to force list goes on. Be glad that our brainfart was against a team like the kings and not better opposition. Heck it took a yellow card and a red card for the lions to beat a mediocre reds

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.03.17 08:54:08 by jdolivier Reply

  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : I wouldn’t compare what we did to the lion’s game. The lions had structure handling and composure. Yes the reds had players off in the second but never looked like breaching the lions in the first when all was still even. Lest we forget we LOST to the same mediocre reds.

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.03.17 10:45:37 by coolfusion Reply

  • Yikes. What a tjommel of a game. Only highlight was Thomas the Tank dragging 4 defenders along as he made metres at will.

  • Comment 53, posted at 19.03.17 11:10:14 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Neither of our scrumhalves can execute a proper box kick. The chasers have no chance to compete for the ball.

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.03.17 11:20:56 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : I know that was the point I was trying to make. If that was the best those players can do the Sharks are in trouble!

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.03.17 12:35:53 by JD Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 50) : I see what you mean…makes you wonder why the guys revert back to old mistakes (kicking away possession; not making it contestable) instead of only making new ones. Reinach did the same against the Reds as I recall, and look how that match worked out for us. IN terms of aggression, I do think the Kings had a tactic to get in the Sharks’ faces, which is perhaps why they were on the back foot. As to whether they were on rhoids? Maybe the legal equivalent, like Tiger blood and Monkey nuts or something…Maybe they listened to smash metal beforehand…who can say? Wish we could deal with stuff like that better; I suppose that’s up to the captain.

  • Comment 56, posted at 19.03.17 12:42:46 by SeanJeff Reply
  • @coolfusion (Comment 52) : Missing the point slightly coolfusion, lions were good on the day, scorecard still flatters their performance. What I was pointing out is that every team slips up somewhere, this was ours and we walked away with a win

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.03.17 12:57:49 by jdolivier Reply

  • I’m relieved that we won but that was a poor performance. The scrum went from us dominant until Ferreira went off to Schalk VdM dominating Lourens as soon as he came on. I think that this guy already has 1 foot on the plane to Europe. Meyer was much better than the Bok TH. This also put pressure on CR and Ben 10. The Ben 10 experiment however failed. This creates a massive problem as Lambie is only available in 6 weeks maybe. But for how long? These injuries are sure to change his mind about staying at some stage. Is Bosch viewed as a FH or FB. Can April and Inny step up and get the back line moving? If not maybe it’s time to sos Freddie if available. Those who think that the coach is favouring his sons really need to watch the performance of these boys before commenting such crap. As good as Deysel is they are currently better.

  • Comment 58, posted at 19.03.17 14:46:00 by sudhir Reply

  • @sudhir (Comment 58) : The other guy who needs some stick is Chiili he is a passenger, why the hell we don’t get Akker from the Lions ,he can’t even make the bench there with Marx and Coetzee in his way.

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  • @The hound (Comment 59) : That is definitely not the worst idea I have heard so far today!

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.03.17 15:16:40 by HeinF Reply

  • @ The Hound. Agree with you on Chilli. Would love it if Akker and RdP jnr joined the sharks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.03.17 16:00:45 by sudhir Reply

  • @jdolivier (Comment 57) : Not having a dig at you. Just saying the lions won the way should have given the circumstances. They didn’t barely win, it was convincingly given the advantage they had. Also I didn’t see us showing the composure and handling they showed. Some very pretty plays and tries from them. Our showing by comparison was dismal seeing we did have the guys with the ability to do better. Chilly Ruan Lourens Cobus all these guys had no excuse. To me it’s a little more than an off day they just seemed incapable of composing themselves and turning things around and they are our regulars. They must be able to survive the changes its a non negotiable at this level to have that level of character.

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.03.17 17:21:57 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Bokhoring (Comment 54) : Problem is no one will accept the fact that they are not Fourie du preez and rather play to their strengths. Cobus can be a brilliant asset if he doesn’t try to model himself on someone he will never be.

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.03.17 17:25:31 by coolfusion Reply

  • Soooooo teality check time, the Sharks were weighed, measured and found very wanting from the coach all the way down by the lowly Kings, and to boot 16 men played 14 for most of the game

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.03.17 17:46:00 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 64) : 16 ? Wow these new rules. ..

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.03.17 18:45:45 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 62) : Cool. Horrible would be an improvement on CR this season. Last weekend we all were ecstatic and hopeful, this week one bad performance, bad being an euphemism, and we have the knives out again. Our “second stringers” let us down. Now give Claasens and April their starts and get this team back to winning convincingly

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.03.17 19:20:37 by jdolivier Reply

  • @benji (Comment 64) : Look back one week………..

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.03.17 19:21:16 by jdolivier Reply

  • To those who don’t want to acknowledge that CR is the best SH we have look back at your posts on this site last year when Claasens was bad and even now is a shadow of the player he was. Every one could not wait for Cobus to get back on the field and now that he makes a few mistakes you want him replaced. Come on! Aside from his attacking ability he is a huge part of the defence in that channel. Claasens is a poor defender. Having him start with any of the current FH is going to create pressure on AE and the loose trio to cover them and also open holes in the defence. Yes Cobus can make us frustrated at times but give him credit for the things he does do well

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.03.17 20:13:15 by sudhir Reply

  • With Grenoble in 13th place and facing relegation and also seemingly in financial problems I think it’s time to make a serious offer to get Charl McLeod back in Durbs!

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.03.17 20:38:51 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 69) : ….or, just invest time and coaching in Ungerer.

  • Comment 70, posted at 19.03.17 20:54:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 70) : he first of all must show that he’s willing to put in the hours before investing time and coaching in him. Rather invest time in Venter.

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.03.17 21:46:25 by JD Reply
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  • we have too seriously tough games coming up, good results for either or even both would be great

    cheetahs have had a tough time with injuries (fully fit I believe they are better than us) we dont know the extent of this until their squad announcement for us as I believe they purposefully rested some guys by not taking them with to arg

    and the lions too have injury issues but at ellis park will be a mountain to climb as they play so well and make it look so easy

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.03.17 23:29:15 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 65) : the ref

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.03.17 00:07:02 by benji Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 67) : no mate this lowly Kings team did proper homework on the Sharks

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.03.17 00:08:26 by benji Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 68) : no mate they both rubbish, CR is the worst 9 in SR and the othet a geristric, the 9 is a big problem at the Sharks

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.03.17 00:12:33 by benji Reply
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  • found pics on my phone taken of the u20 world cup final at newlands and had to double check the squad to see who has gone on to play consistently at the highest level.

    South Africa: 15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Raymond Rhule, 13 Kobus van Wyk, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Tshotsho Mbovane, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Vian van der Watt, 8 Fabian Booysen, 7 Pieter Steph du Toit, 6 Wian Liebenberg, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Paul Willemse, 3 Maks van Dyk, 2 Mark Pretorius, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
    Replacements: 16 Franco Marais, 17 Allan Dell, 18 Oliver Kebble, 19 Braam Steyn, 20 Shaun Adendorff, 21 Abrie Griesel, 22 Tony Jantjies, 23 Travis Ismaiel.

    New Zealand: 15 Marty McKenzie, 14 Pita Ahki, 13 Jason Emery, 12 Ope Peleseuma, 11 Milford Keresoma, 10 Ihaia West, 9 Bryn Hall (captain), 8 Jordan Taufua, 7 Hugh Blake, 6 Jimmy Tupou, 5 Nick Ross, 4 Joe Latta, 3 Fraser Armstrong, 2 Nathan Harris, 1 Ofa Tuungafasi.
    Replacements: 16 Rhys Marshall, 17 Tuki Raimona, 18 Eric Sione, 19 Taniela Manu, 20 Jake Heenan, 21 Scott Eade, 22 Ambrose Curtis, 23 Marnus Hanley.

    interesting stuff

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.03.17 01:11:16 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @JD (Comment 71) : You reckon Ungerer is lazy?

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.03.17 06:59:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @sudhir (Comment 68) : Cobus on attack is great most times. Cobus in a retreating pack is not Cobus in a losing game runs out of ideas and makes some bad decisions. He has the ability but he does not have the character to turn things around or take the lead. He also has to let go of that box kick it’s his go to move an every one knows it even the opposition. It’s a 5050 play at best and when you are on the back foot 5050 is already an unacceptable risk. You can watch nz and aus teams even when they are trailing or taking strain that play is always a last ditch not the first thing you go to. So who has to change Cobus’ mind so he can progress past this obvious block?

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.03.17 08:03:26 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 78) : Worst thing Reinach did was crabbing sideways when looking for a gap, then passing the ball to Ben10 with the entire Kings attack there to hammer him. Cronje hit the poor kid’s confidence right out of him, a mere ten mins. into the game.

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.03.17 08:22:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 79) : And in that tackle Cronje made huge statement,he and our other tormentor in chief Cloete were both rejected by the Sharks.

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.03.17 08:26:14 by The hound Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 68) : CR’s strengths have always been his defense and support play. However he has always been slow to clear the rucks, and the accuracy (and decision when) on his box kicks were never spot on. This year his passes are also slower (more like netball passes) and often the player next to him gets ball and defender at the same time. I still don’t think he is a natural 9

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.03.17 08:29:23 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 81) : I have been saying for years that he would make a fantastic wing, or a 7’s player

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.03.17 08:38:33 by The hound Reply
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  • This game was the worst from the Sharks this year (and worse than a number of games from last year). Only those with seriously rose tinted glassed will compare this game with the Lions who still managed to score 7 tries to 2 against a Reds team that is way better than the Kings.

    The only good thing is that a team can always improve in the next game. The Sharks face their usual banana skin in Bloem next week – so a major improvement from everyone will be needed.

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.03.17 08:42:53 by Bokhoring Reply
  • When I saw our starting props for this game I thought we had the scrums in the bag – Lourens and Thomas? Thought they would have dominated, but instead we got taken to pieces. I believe a lot of our problems in that game started right there. Any scrum experts know why we failed so hard?

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.03.17 08:46:32 by KimFurber Reply

  • Even though this was terrible, there are positives, AE showed calmness under pressure in a backline uninterested and lethargic, Garth April and Claasens just click. If they joined the frey before half-time, the score sheet might have been different. If NZ and the hurricanes can bench savea after a shocker and let him play himself back into contention, maybe rdp should give reinach, botha and chilli splinter time

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.03.17 09:03:59 by jdolivier Reply

  • @The hound (Comment 80) : Cloete had it all his way against us (except for his yellow card).

    I don’t understand why Terra was not told to get more involved at the rucks – it was obvious that we needed all hands on deck at the ruck, as the Kings targeted us there. I’m no fan of forwards hanging out at wing and fullback. Seems to be an RdP tactic, but I’m not sure it’s having the desired effect.

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.03.17 09:23:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @The hound (Comment 47) : I rate April bigtime.

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.03.17 09:24:28 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : I tend to agree not liking forwards on the wings but up till now it has been working for us. I will say that with Philip out we do need a greater focus on the ruck and therefore perhaps reign Terra in for the time being.

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.03.17 09:36:12 by Hulk Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : I think if you want to play with more width you need a loose forward to be around the outside of the field. Likewise when 15 and one wing is tied up in a back line move, 8 (especially when your 10 is really inexperienced) to help cover the back – which Tera did to good effect when the Kings kicked deep after winning a turnover.

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.03.17 09:43:47 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 89) : In that case, I’d prefer an eighth-man of Kanko’s and Whiteley’s style – not sure Terra fits that mould, he seemed to do better in the tight-loose….

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.03.17 10:25:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 78) : The Canes kick a lot, especially box kicks. What differs from theirs is they attack and chase the ACCURATE kick successfully. We just kick inaccurately served with a side of half-assed chases, basically just handing them possession on a platter. How come the u-turn from the tactics we used against the Brumbies? There we had a clear emphasis on ball retention, which worked out at the end.

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.03.17 10:54:24 by Quintin Reply

  • @Quintin (Comment 91) : I think the coach was also wondering about the u turn the body language and the hand signal seemed to indicate that. Was it robs decision or just some spooked players who made that call on the day?

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.03.17 18:03:28 by coolfusion Reply


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