Richard Ferguson

Rugby Champs 2017: South Africa vs Australia

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship, Wallabies on 30 Sep 2017 at 13:00
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It’s the final stretch of the 2017 Rugby Championship campaign and the battle is on for the runner up position. The Springboks host the Wallabies in Bloemfontein to decide who finishes second to the mighty All Blacks.

After showing some positive signs in the early part of the Championship, the Springboks suffered a humiliating defeat in New Zealand and will have to start the process of winning fans’ hearts from scratch. They will do well to start that process with a good performance in Bloem, nothing beats beating the Wallabies and doing it well.

Interesting things to keep an eye on is how well Francois Louw fits into the loose trio, while Dillyn Leyds will have the opportunity to showcase his skills. Whether Leyds sees any action will depend on the pack and inside backs. It will be a shame to have such a talented player on the park and not see him in action.

Otherwise, the team is mostly unchanged and should be able to continue building on the combinations, especially in the front row and in midfield.

South Africa: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Dillyn Leyds, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Uzair Cassiem, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Francois Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth (captain), 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Jean-Luc du Preez, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Handré Pollard, 23 Damian de Allende.

Australia: 15 Israel Folau, 14 Marika Koroibete, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Kurtley Beale, 11 Reece Hodges, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia, 8 Sean McMahon, 7 Michael Hooper (captain), 6 Jack Dempsey, 5 Adam Coleman, 4 Izack Rodda, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Scott Sio.
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Rob Simmons, 20 Ned Hanigan, 21 Lukhan Tui, 22 Nick Phipps, 23 Samu Kerevi.

Date: Saturday, September 30
Venue: Free State stadium, Bloemfontein
Kick-off: 17.00 (15.00 GMT; 01.00; Sunday, October 1; AEST)
Expected weather: Partly cloudy after two rainy days, with a high of 27°C and a low of 13°C. It’s springtime on the Highveld.
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand)
Assistant referees: Jérôme Garcès (France), Shuhei Kubo (Japan)
TMO: Rowan Kitt (England)


  • Gooooo Bokkke!!!! Will miss the game as i have stock take… 😕

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.09.17 16:27:41 by DuToit04 Reply
  • Skosan had two touches, monstered in both. Nkosi should have been there

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.09.17 17:14:13 by jdolivier Reply
  • Dreyer is surely not the next best tighthead after Coenie

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.09.17 17:42:39 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Boks getting shafted by the ref

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.09.17 17:45:37 by byron Reply

  • Should be a yellow for that tackle

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.09.17 17:47:40 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 5) : @byron (Comment 4) : how was that hair pull not yellow

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.09.17 17:49:48 by jdolivier Reply

  • @jdolivier (Comment 6) : Fuck knows 😯

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.09.17 17:51:19 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 2) : Would also have been monstered. Centres are useless.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.09.17 17:52:11 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 7) : pathetic in the northern hemisphere players get banned for four weeks if that happens, this paluka sees it and does nothing.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.09.17 17:52:37 by jdolivier Reply

  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 8) : nkosi doesn’t backtrack in a tackle

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.09.17 17:53:12 by jdolivier Reply

  • Bunch of donkeys in midfield

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.09.17 17:53:26 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Can’t decide who’s kakker between Serfontein and Kriel

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.09.17 17:53:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 10) : Nkosi hasn’t faced international defenses with two useless centres on his inside yet

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.09.17 17:54:36 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 13) : faced the same players in superrugby

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.09.17 17:55:07 by jdolivier Reply

  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 12) : take 10 12 and 13

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.09.17 17:55:35 by jdolivier Reply

  • Elton is shit scared in this match

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.09.17 17:56:51 by jdolivier Reply

  • Good try by the Boks

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.09.17 18:08:13 by Bokhoring Reply
  • 17-13 Boks

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.09.17 18:08:52 by Bokhoring Reply
  • And skosan chickens out of a tackle attempt, how is he even there

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.09.17 18:11:09 by jdolivier Reply

  • Good work from Kolisi in the Bok try undone by kak defence leading to Aussie try

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.09.17 18:11:39 by Bokhoring Reply
  • 1 – 1 to Kolisi in the second half

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.09.17 18:12:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • And then redeems himself with a lot of commitment in that try

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.09.17 18:14:38 by jdolivier Reply

  • Now Boks score again. Setfontein manages to put Skosan away.

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.09.17 18:15:39 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Great finish by Skosan!

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.09.17 18:16:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Boks starting to play with a lot more urgency

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.09.17 18:17:14 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Dryer must be subbed

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.09.17 18:19:14 by byron Reply

  • @byron (Comment 26) : Thomas the tank should be there

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.09.17 18:20:09 by jdolivier Reply

  • We are being pinged for offside and they are sooo marginal and the ref is just ignoring australia?

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.09.17 18:22:49 by byron Reply

  • Aus try started by poor scrumming by Dreyer on their 5m line

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.09.17 18:22:50 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @byron (Comment 28) : only way the the islanders from the penal colony can win is through outside interference

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.09.17 18:25:08 by jdolivier Reply

  • Boks giving stupid penalties away

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.09.17 18:26:33 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Good steal from Jean Luc

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.09.17 18:27:49 by Bokhoring Reply
  • JLdP hasn’t exactly set the world alight since he replaced Cassiem.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.09.17 18:28:09 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : My stream is seriously delayed. I had no idea what you were on about.

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.09.17 18:29:45 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Lleyds is putting his body on the line

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.09.17 18:31:25 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Great defense Cronjé!

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.09.17 18:32:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • PSDT coming on as 7. Toetie will never learn

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.09.17 18:33:28 by Bokhoring Reply
  • This is just a contest for second place with no hope for first. I can’t work myself up for it.

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.09.17 18:35:11 by coolfusion Reply

  • Jantjies equalizes 27 all

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.09.17 18:37:48 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 33) : Has any player set the world alight? he has atleast made all his tackles and done the donkey work asked of him.

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.09.17 18:38:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Foley keeps kicking on JLDP who is struggling a bit at kickoffs

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.09.17 18:38:55 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Late tackle missed by ref … cost us 70m

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.09.17 18:43:12 by byron Reply

  • Boks not chasing kicks allowing Aus to run back with interest

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.09.17 18:43:37 by Bokhoring Reply
  • Ref misses another synical offence

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.09.17 18:43:39 by jdolivier Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 38) : Snap

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.09.17 18:44:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : People say Cassiem is kak but his absence hasn’t been felt because JLdP hasn’t made a difference.

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.09.17 18:45:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Thats the 6th oz penalty within 10m of the oz line

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.09.17 18:47:02 by byron Reply

  • Did anyone else see the ozzie player push our tackler when they made the last line break …. dirty bunch of thugs … thats a yellow and a penalty

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.09.17 18:51:41 by byron Reply

  • How shit are our centers. Huge mistake bringing on domeen die ellendig

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.09.17 18:51:50 by jdolivier Reply

  • Very unsporting by the ozzies … lots of off the ball niggle

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.09.17 18:52:21 by byron Reply

  • @byron (Comment 48) : he missed at least two yellows this game

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.09.17 18:52:32 by jdolivier Reply

  • Two kak sides = pretty decent entertainment. Can’t wait for the AB game for some proper rugby.

  • Comment 52, posted at 30.09.17 18:53:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 52) : An apt outcome for two very mediocre teams.

  • Comment 53, posted at 30.09.17 18:54:40 by coolfusion Reply

  • So two draws against the Aussies, so we’re equally shit

  • Comment 54, posted at 30.09.17 18:56:10 by jdolivier Reply

  • Beale motm, were the selectors drunk. Coetzee was much better

  • Comment 55, posted at 30.09.17 18:57:16 by jdolivier Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 53) : If this competition had a podium the 2nd, 3rd and 4th positions wouldn’t be in the frame of the photo.

  • Comment 56, posted at 30.09.17 18:57:19 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I know Rob dup is still new to big leagues but I think he would with his team be able to produce a better outcome. Even if he isn’t ready to beat NZ we would still be a very definite nr 2. I think England Wales are at the moment still better contenders for world nr 2 and 3 than both these teams.

  • Comment 57, posted at 30.09.17 18:57:27 by coolfusion Reply

  • Huge improvement?? OMG 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

  • Comment 58, posted at 30.09.17 18:57:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 58) : Compared to what?

  • Comment 59, posted at 30.09.17 18:57:55 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : Commentator on SS on the MOM awards says we were hugely improved, he must be drunk again.

  • Comment 60, posted at 30.09.17 18:59:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • The Aussies used their only first-phase move and scored. We had NONE.

  • Comment 61, posted at 30.09.17 19:01:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 60) : SA Rugby is pissed beyond repair.

  • Comment 62, posted at 30.09.17 19:02:31 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : Compared to 57 – 0. They’re not wrong.

  • Comment 63, posted at 30.09.17 19:03:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Elton had his big opportunity to show he has BMT… failed.

  • Comment 64, posted at 30.09.17 19:05:34 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 60) : Yup. We should get some honest opinionated hard nose who isn’t afraid to tell it like it really is. AC probably just happy it isn’t a zero, as far as his aspirations go. Actually was hoping aus would whup us bad so things can be shaken up. But I guess he is destined to be the Jacob Zuma of rugby. Keep flying just under the radar. SARU also not doing much to improve the overall state of the rugby nation with their messing around of provincial sides.

  • Comment 65, posted at 30.09.17 19:07:08 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 63) : That’s just sad dude. Comparing a draw against a bunch of palookas to a drubbing against the real standard of rugby. These guys are losers.

  • Comment 66, posted at 30.09.17 19:08:46 by coolfusion Reply

  • ABs by at least 20 next week

  • Comment 67, posted at 30.09.17 19:10:04 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @coolfusion (Comment 66) : Exactly the point

  • Comment 68, posted at 30.09.17 19:13:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : You’re being generous to the Boks.

  • Comment 69, posted at 30.09.17 19:14:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 68) : Truly sad state of affairs. I know we have our favorites but even the guys at our disposal should be able to do better with proper coaching. It’s an injustice to them.

  • Comment 70, posted at 30.09.17 19:18:52 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : The entire system is rotten bud. We have to accept the fact that Bok rugby will very likely never be number one again. Unless a major volcano drowns NZ or Eddie Jones kicks the bucket.

  • Comment 71, posted at 30.09.17 19:25:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 71) : Or unless we have coach who can step up. Without being biased it seems like our only prospect in SA is Rob. Unless Rassie can also put his hand up.

  • Comment 72, posted at 30.09.17 20:06:46 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 64) : Surprisingly.

  • Comment 73, posted at 30.09.17 20:07:15 by coolfusion Reply

  • Who even has interest in this anymore? True Springbok rugby died some time back…what we’re seeing is the instinct of the headless chicken that remains. That’s the only metaphor that makes sense. I don’t want the Sharks players to debase themselves by playing for a headless chicken. The Sharks corpus is alive and getting stronger and I don’t want Allister Coetzee within 100 miles of our Sharks

  • Comment 74, posted at 30.09.17 20:10:18 by SeanJeff Reply
  • I heard some stupid rumours linking Jantjies to possible sharks offers? Hope it’s just that.

  • Comment 75, posted at 30.09.17 20:11:36 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 75) : Hellllllll NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Comment 76, posted at 30.09.17 20:19:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 76) : Is what I said. …..

  • Comment 77, posted at 30.09.17 20:22:57 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 77) : Probably a late April fool’s joke.

  • Comment 78, posted at 30.09.17 20:25:03 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 75) : His a good player, I wanted him at the sharks a few years ago, but now we are covered with bosch (who can also play FB), ben (who eventually can cover 12 as well), april (covers fb), inny (great 10, should not play FB at this stage, focus on 10). and if we get RobJr (12 also) we are set

  • Comment 79, posted at 30.09.17 20:25:25 by revolverocelot Reply

  • Make the Bok team out of current and former Sharks still Playing and Future :mrgreen:

    15 Steyn
    14 Mapimpi
    13 Am
    12 Andre
    11 Nkosi
    10 Lambie
    09 Schreuder
    08 VD Walt
    07 J Luc
    06 Marcell
    05 Ruan
    04 Oosthuizen/Paul
    03 Coenie
    02 Bismark
    01 Beast

    16 Marais/Akker
    17 Jannie
    18 Thomas
    19 Lewies
    20 Dan
    21 Claasens/Wright
    22 Bosch
    23 Mvovo

    Now that team could rock lol :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 30.09.17 20:27:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Sharks back line really starting to look good, Here is more or less our squad for next year, This is also where each player comes from as some guys were telling me how we raided the Free State player stocks and as you can see nearly noting bar a few from Bloem.
    Marius Louw is the only player to come to the Sharks from School in Bloem and born in Bloem, did not however play Cheetah juniors.

    Also One thing i noticed is that many of the Sharks recruits from outside KZN did not play for their Province schools etc, players that did not make the grade.

    Full Back:
    Lwazi Mvovo, School EC and into Sharks acdemy
    Rhyno Smith, School Paarl then played Leopards then to Sharks
    Leolin Zas, Schooled Paarl then played juniors Western Province

    S’busiso Nkosi, Mpumalanga and to Sharks from Lions
    Makazole Mapimpi EC, Kings then Cheetahs to Sharks
    Kobus Van Wyk Paarl schooled, WP came to Sharks from Bordeaux
    Odwa Ndugane EC Border to Blue Bulls to Sharks
    Tythan Adams, Paarl schooled then played in Scotland then to Sharks

    Lukhanyo Am, EC to Falcons, back to border then to Sharks
    Andre Esterhuizen, Schooled in Potch and straight to Sharks academy
    Marius Louw, Free State then to Sharks academy and KZN university and Sharks
    Jeremy Ward, PE and Kings juniors then Sharks
    Johann Deysel, Namibia to Potch University and Leopards then Sharks
    Tristan Blewett, Schooled KZN and Sharks

    Curwin Bosch, PE schools then Sharks academy and Sharks
    Robert Dupreez, KZN Schools and Sharks then to WP and set to return to Sharks
    Benhard Janse van Rensburg, Limpopo scholled the Leopards juniors then Sharks
    Garth April, Cape to Roodepoort school then Boland then WP then Sharks
    Innocent Radebe, JHB schooled then Lions juniors then Sharks

    Louis Schreuder, Paarl WP then Japan Kings then Sharks
    Cameron Wright, Durban and Sharks juniors the Montpellier then back to Sharks
    Michael Claassens, Cheetahs to Bath and toulon then Sharks
    Faf de Villiers, Sharks academy
    Grant Williams. KZN schooled and club rugby to Sharks juniors


    Tendai Beast Mtawarira, Zim Schooled then Sharks
    Thomas du Toit, Paarl schooled and WP schools then Sharks Academy and Sharks
    Ross Geldenhuis, Border schooled and then played 15 teams before Sharks
    Juan Schoeman, School Affies then junior Bulls then Sharks
    Coenie Oosthuizen, Potch then Cheetahs then Sharks
    John Hubert Meyer. Paarl schooled then WP then Sharks
    Mzamo Majola, KZN Schools and Sharks

    Franco Marais, Vaal Triangle, FAlcons juniors to Sharks academy and Sharks
    Chiliboy Ralepelle, Tzaneen then Pretoria school, Bulls juniors, Bulls, Toulouse then Sharks
    Akker van der Merwe, Schooled in George, then Leopards then Lions then Sharks
    Stephan Coetzee, WP schooled, then Kwas and Cheetahs juniors then Sharks and currently on loan to Kings

    Sharks need another good hooker in case of injuries

    Stephan Lewies, Schooled Pretoria then Sharks academy and Sharks
    Ruan Botha, Kempton Park schooled Young Lions then WP then Sharks
    Gideon Koegelenberg, Paarl schooled then Sharks academy and Sharks juniors then Italy then back to Sharks
    Tyler Paul, PE and Kings then to Sharks
    Hyron Andrews, Schooled Pretoria then BB’s juniors then Sharks academy and then Sharks
    Jean Droste, Pretoria schooled then Sharks academy and then Sharks
    JJ van der Mescht, Durban Born and raised then SHarks academy and Sharks

    Loose Forwards:
    Dan du Preez, Durban and Sharks
    Jean luc du Preez, Durban and Sharks
    Phillip vd Walt, PE, Kings schools and juniors then Cheetahs then Biarritz then Sharks
    Tera Mtembu, Border schooled then Sharks academy and Sharks
    Jacques Vermeulen, Paarl the WP juniors and WP then Sharks
    Keegan Daniel, Border schooled then Sharks academy and Sharks spent 2 seasons in Japan
    Wian Vosloo, Sharks academy and Sharks

  • Comment 81, posted at 30.09.17 20:38:00 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 79) : I think he had the potential to be a good player. That has never been realised. He is nothing more than a good CC player and average super rugby player with lots of inconsistencies. Has zero BMT tactically unsound and pure confidence player with no ability to turn a game.

  • Comment 82, posted at 30.09.17 21:17:36 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 75) : @sharks_lover (Comment 76) : can’t see it happening not with Bosch and RdP jnr both at the Sharks!!! It would just be a stupid move to make!!!

  • Comment 83, posted at 30.09.17 22:17:23 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 83) : Just doesn’t seem legit

  • Comment 84, posted at 30.09.17 22:18:34 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 81) : thanks very interesting reading! Just one thing think Coetzee is permanently at the Kings and not on loan. Lot’s of EC and Paarl old boys in the squad!

  • Comment 85, posted at 30.09.17 22:27:54 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 83) : Me neither if any space is made for a fh it would be for rob jnr. We are overstocked at fh.

  • Comment 86, posted at 30.09.17 22:45:09 by coolfusion Reply

  • What do you guys think of the hair pulling? As far as I can tell under the laws it’s nothing more than a high tackle. That’s how the referee treated it.

    Interestingly, in the NFL, hair sticking out under the helmet is considered part of the uniform and fair game. A tackle by the hair is perfectly legal. Horse collar is not.

  • Comment 87, posted at 01.10.17 01:33:02 by fyndraai Reply
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  • I also wonder about the obvious forward pass the referees let go there at the end. Perhaps they reckoned to review it in case of a try. Yet as it was, it was not reviewable and the Boks could have won the match of a penalty that should not have been.

  • Comment 88, posted at 01.10.17 01:37:08 by fyndraai Reply
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  • The standard of refereeing in the oz vs sa match was alarming. Just been rewatching the match and there were 3 yellow card offences by oz that were just ignored or missed – hair tackle, tackle in air and a shove on a tackle player off the ball who was shoved while trying to make a tackle

  • Comment 89, posted at 01.10.17 10:08:49 by byron Reply

  • Forward passes, knocckons … pulling down malls. This apathetic reffing style that is creeping into the game us just not acceptable

  • Comment 90, posted at 01.10.17 10:11:31 by byron Reply

  • Ach…sigh…

  • Comment 91, posted at 01.10.17 12:48:08 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 85) : JD if memory serves me there were 2 or 3 players we loaned the Kings for their tournament up north, Another is Sbura Sithole and I think there was another.

  • Comment 92, posted at 01.10.17 13:16:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 92) : I don’t think they were just loaned – Rob said something like that on here…and can confirm?

  • Comment 93, posted at 01.10.17 13:36:22 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 92) : @pastorshark (Comment 93) : Ja the four players was Majola, Gouws, Sithole and Coetzee but I’m sure the move was permanent and not just a loan.

  • Comment 94, posted at 01.10.17 16:49:00 by JD Reply
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  • Coetzee is permanently with the Kings

  • Comment 95, posted at 01.10.17 19:16:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • Personally I think Sithole should stay there at least another year. He cannot compete with our current centres and with mapimpi and Zas coming, wing is quickly going south for him as well.

  • Comment 96, posted at 01.10.17 20:43:30 by coolfusion Reply

  • The Bok problems start with the tighthead who keeps falling over. No ball player at 8 to link forwards and backs. Backline play is very pedestrial and we just pass the ball down the line, no deceptive running lines, no crisp passes. Most Sa players look really awkward trying to pass the ball…mayb less gym work and more ball work is needed. Before the start of this year we would have taken two draws against the Ozzies so guess we should take it as we could and probably should have won both games but at least we didnt lose them. So far we have only lost 1 game to the best side in the world.

  • Comment 97, posted at 02.10.17 09:23:55 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 97) : After last year if you told me at this point in the year we would have only lost one game to NZ and drew twice with the Ozzies I’d have taken it, but it’s not really about the results. It’s about taking a record loss from NZ and the messages we are getting from the coaching box. After a record loss to hear your coach say there were positives and he saw good touches on defence and attack when you’ve caught a 57-0 thumping is absolute denial. Then to defend players and say you will persevere with them, then drop them is another alarm bell. Then after our horrendous defensive effort on Saturday, for our defence coach to say we don’t deserve criticism smacks of complacency. It’s not really the results that are making me a very disgruntled Bok supporter, it’s what our coaches are saying that makes me think this team is not going to progress.

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.10.17 08:04:37 by Hulk Reply

  • @Hulk (Comment 98) : You cant be too chuffed with Venter telling “you” to shut up or stop watching,and that despite “you” paying crazy DSTV monthly rentals, buying tickets to games and the Bok paraphernalia that goes with supporting a team.

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.10.17 09:51:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 97) : Cronje passes to Jantjies who has to grab the ball above his head and then Jantjies passes to Serfontein who has to stop and grab the ball above his head?? Centres who run with the ball tucked under the arm?? All this while playing with a rush defence in your face

    The passing skills of players who some rate as the best distributors in SA are shocking. We can forget about playing any attacking rugby until the players sort out these basic errors.

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.10.17 10:06:20 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 99) : I’m very much of the opinion that people in the public eye should avoid twitter accounts (people like Presidents and Rugby Coaches). If I were the Bok defence coach and after the last 2 Bok games you wouldn’t hear me saying anything other than the performance is not good enough. Venter is so busy trying to make better human beings he’s forgotten his primary objective is to make them better on defence.

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.10.17 10:25:20 by Hulk Reply

  • @Bokhoring (Comment 100) : I agree with you- but just look at our Super rugby and CC teams- the passing there is also not good. If i look at the Bok starting backline not one of them would be considered good passes of the ball. Yes they have other good attributes but passng isnt one of them. And yet we wonder why we dont look dangerous on attack. Reason NZ and Aussie backlines look more dangerous is that they hav good passes at 9,10,12

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.10.17 11:33:23 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Hulk (Comment 101) : Defence? No priority attached to that. Refer to his stint at the sharks. I’m not convinced Venter is coaching material at all. So glad he is out of our setup. As for him telling people not to watch rugby where would he then get money for NOT doing his job if we all stopped watching?

  • Comment 103, posted at 03.10.17 13:41:07 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 103) : Italy defensive coach SA defensive coach. Both sides have piss poor defense. Wonder what the common denominator is?

  • Comment 104, posted at 03.10.17 13:48:20 by coolfusion Reply


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