Dan out for a month

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 21 Feb 2018 at 10:20
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The Sharks have released an injury report following Saturday’s match against the Lions in Johannesburg and as is usually the case with these things, it’s not as good as we’d hoped for, but certainly far better than we feared it might be.

The most serious casualty coming out of the contest is loose forward Daniel du Preez. The newly-capped Springbok was not even set to start at Emirates Airline Park but was a late addition to the starting team once Keegan Daniel cried off with a dicky tummy. Du Preez suffered a shoulder injury late in the first half and it’s been confirmed that he’s suffered a ligament tear that will keep him out of action for around four weeks. He thus joins brother Jean-Luc on the sidelines, the latter in the final stages of recovery after breaking his ankle last October. The twins should both be back in action sometime in March, perhaps in time for the Sharks’ overseas tour, where their skills will be sorely needed.

Hooker Akker van der Merwe is showing no ill effects after a mild elbow strain sustained late in the match and he has already returned to training. The other injured party was scrumhalf Cameron Wright, who went off after a head knock. Wright will need to follow the required concussion protocols before returning to play, but it doesn’t sound as though a lay-off is expected, given that the Sharks only play again next weekend.

Louis Schreuder will return to training next week as well and the odds have to be good for a return for him against the Waratahs as well; at the very least, the Sharks will be hoping that at least one of their scrumhalves (Wright, Schreduer or Michael Claassens) will be fit enough prevent young grant Williams from having to start a high-pressure match against the Waratahs.

It’s at tighthead prop, though, that the Sharks look most in need of an experienced option, making it worrying indeed that Ross Geldenhuys’s name has not been mentioned as either fit to play or being close to a return.


  • As you mention nothing about Geldenhuys or Claasens ? And havnt heard much regarding Zas, Droste,Rhyno Smith(still 7s?), Ward (out till when again?)

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.02.18 10:41:53 by SheldonK Reply
  • Sharks unfortunately are legend when it comes to releasing half an injury report – they forget that the fans have long memories 🙂

    Ross is back in training this week, so that’s good news. Rhyno is still with 7s. Zas, I don’t know…. he was out for long time so maybe he needs to get fit? Ward will be out for a month or two and Droste should be close, if not already back.

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.02.18 10:44:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Yeh they seem to just focus on the inuries from the game immediately prior when they make their injury press release. Also not much about our new/returning lock Giedon Koegelenberg….just guessing he isnt cutting it?

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.02.18 10:46:50 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : big squad, not everyone can play?

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.02.18 10:47:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : Is he more of a number 4 or 5 lock?

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.02.18 10:52:02 by HeinF Reply

  • @HeinF (Comment 5) : I’d say Koegies is more of a 4.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.02.18 11:07:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Okay good, we need one of those. Hopefully he will work hard for a place in the team and add a bit of grunt that we need from the second row. Not that I think our current locks are doing a terrible job, mind you.

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.02.18 11:25:00 by HeinF Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : No very true, just hadnt heard anything aftr his few minutes in the first warm up. Suppose its the same for other guys too

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.02.18 11:25:23 by SheldonK Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Then there is another massive lock waiting in the wings ???????? a certain JJ van der Mescht ????

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.02.18 11:31:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Given the bye, at least both twins don’t miss too much action – and thankfully we have great depth.

    My loosies for Waratahs.

    6. Keegan Daniel
    7. Vermeulen
    8. Phillip

    19. Tera Mthembu
    20. Tyler Paul

    I still have a sneaky feeling when both twins are fit that one will be employed on the bench to cover number 4 lock – much like we did with Deysel and Alberts – too much muscle to ignore.

    Good news on the scrummie front, and I am advocating that Cam fights for top spot with Schreuder deputising, but I think those roles will be reversed.

    Beast will be a welcome addition to starting prop, and we know Thomas will be number 3, but the world’s attention is on him, Meyer didn’t do too badly and justifies his replacement spot.

    I like Lwazi as a starting Fullback, but he and Curwin will be rotated throughout the season methinks. I do think that our starting backline shouldn’t be tinkered with against the Tahs, and would like to think that what we saw against the Lions is our first team proper amongst the backs.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.02.18 11:38:49 by Richard Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 9) : If they aren’t going to play Koegies or vd Mescht, send them to Cheetahs to play in Pro14, will be good experience for them. See Stormers are looking at sending Moerat to play Pro14
    We need a solid 4 lock. We have Visser, JP du Preez but both more 5 locks. Wenger is leaving for Japan, and I think Hugo as well

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.02.18 11:46:50 by KingCheetah Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 9) : @KingCheetah (Comment 11) : I really wouldnt get too excited about Van Der Mescht till we have seen him play senior rugby. Like DuToit he is bigger than the other kids his age but does tend to stay in the wider channels and do the fancy stuff not the grunt stuff, will need to change that to make it at senior level

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.02.18 12:31:37 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 12) : van der Mescht is with the Junior Boks and they have quite an intensive schedule over the next few months

    Camp 1 – 20-23 February (Stellenbosch)

    Camp 2 – 6-9 March (Stellenbosch)

    Camp 3 – 27-30 March (Stellenbosch)

    Camp 4 – 10-25 April (Stellenbosch) – 2 games vs Georgia

    UK Tour – 30 April to 12 May – matches against Scotland, Wales and England

    U20 Champs holding camp – 20-25 May (Stellenbosch)

    World Rugby U20 Championship – May 30 to June 17 (France)

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.02.18 12:49:52 by Baylion Reply

  • @Baylion (Comment 13) : Yeh will see how he goes at that level. Definitely huge potential but his game will need to grow from just being the biggest guy on the field. I think he can but after school is a different environment and guys need to be self motivated and not distracted by other things. So yeh looking forward to see how he develops and hopefully stays injury free and we see him in the u21 CC later this year

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.02.18 12:56:29 by SheldonK Reply

  • Looking ahead to our next 4 matches:

    1) Waratahs (home) (w)
    2) Sunwolves (home) (w)
    3) Brumbies (away) (l)
    4) Rebels (away) (w)

    This is what I predict – The Brumbies present our toughest challenge in the next “block” of 4 matches and is it stands, this is the only team that will get the better of us – bonus point victories against the Sunwolves and Rebels will almost be essential. I think the Brumbies are Australia’s strongest team this season, and had we played them at home, I would have put down a (w) for us there – after this block that would leave us with: Played 5 Won: 3 Lost: 2 with a predicted 15 points on the log: 4 VS Waratahs 5 VS Sunwolves 0 VS Brumbies 5 VS Rebels.

    Why am I saying this? Because it is Wednesday, and I am bored and I am trying desperately to create proactive conversation.

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.02.18 14:52:11 by Richard Reply

  • @Richard (Comment 15) : Dont judge the Rebels just yet, they have made a couple of acquisitions and at home will be tricky to beat.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.02.18 15:07:52 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) : Our away games in Australia have always been tough, going over there is not easy at the best of times, the games are usually quite scrappy, with the opposition often reverting to spoiling tactics – not a criticism of Australian rugby, but we tend to either lose messy, or win ugly in Australia – hardly ever champagne rugby, they are a tough lot, and quite underrated – having Will Genia at scrumhalf is a big acquisition – definitely not a walk over… Thereafter Blues and then Hurricanes – there are no easy fixtures in this tournament. Happy to have 15 teams back, but still prefer the league setup vs conference setup. Getting results against our opponents in this next 4 match block is imperative, because if we lose to Brumbies, Rebels, Blues and Hurricanes, that would present a pretty dismal state of affairs and would not make us championship material, if you consider the run of form the Crusaders had last year – you pretty much need to fire from the word go.

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.02.18 15:18:01 by Richard Reply

  • I think it’s time Tera left the Sharks to go elsewhere to go get game time

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.02.18 15:26:07 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 18) : I think Tera has been unlucky with injuries and when he has played he’s been utilized in the wider channels and therefore the illusion is that he’s not pulling his weight which counts against him when the likes of Dan, Jacques Vermeulen, Van Der Walt and even Keegan are available. It’s tough for him but if he can improve his play and be more “confrontational” I think he can start getting more game time. Don’t think it’s time for him to go yet.

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.02.18 15:41:33 by Hulk Reply

  • @Richard (Comment 17) : Yeh must say i agree. I also prefer the league format and then team on top of the log wins, that rewards consistency, but TV wants a playoff game/s. I think the old adage of win at home and then get as many points as possible on the road is what is key. The for every game dropped at hoe you need to win away from home. Think if a team does that they will be there or thereabluts come the playoffs. As you say no easy fixtures.

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.02.18 15:42:55 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 18) : The problem is where? He isn’t likely to get a gig in SA, so he would have to get offers abroad. Cheetahs have Neil Jordaan, Jasper Wiese and quite a few young players that can play for them. Kings maybe, but other than that nada.
    Stormers have a surplus, Lions seem to be well served, and definitely not the Bulls. Terra is rated by Sharks, but I am afraid not much outside Durban.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.02.18 15:43:01 by KingCheetah Reply

  • @KingCheetah (Comment 21) : Yeh thats my thoughts, unlikely to find a Super rugby team. So perhaps Kings or abroad

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.02.18 15:49:03 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Hulk (Comment 19) : He’s not going to get anywhere without game time, without it he just won’t improve if that’s the case that is counting against him. To go from being Sharks captain last year in the beginning of the season to now not even being able to make the bench especially in the season opener. I reckon the writing is on the wall that he needs to leave to go get regular game time

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.02.18 15:50:39 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @KingCheetah (Comment 21) : No choice but to go overseas Europe

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.02.18 15:53:30 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 24) : I rate Tera very highly and think he is the closest to bringing the “Keegan Dynamic” amongst the loosies we have. Other than Keegan himself, of course, who is getting on in years.

    He has been terribly unlucky with injuries, though. It has stopped him from ever really building up a good run of performances.

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.02.18 16:04:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • Pity for Dan, but we still reasonably OK with loose forwards. Glad the injury to Cam is not long term – that could have caused a spot of bother

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.02.18 16:24:07 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : I think all Sharks are a big fan of Tera, I know I rate him very, very highly. Whenever he has had the opportunity to play, he has not disappointed. I would like to see him feature more, and given the injuries, we have currently, I would like to see him get a good hit out off the bench against the Tahs. I would like Tera to stay with The Sharks if possible, as he still has a huge amount to offer. I do not consider him surplus to requirements.

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.02.18 16:24:13 by Richard Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 18) : We should at least send them on loan. But with Dan and JL out he might get game time soon.

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.02.18 17:25:20 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 28) : Kings not overseas. Being selfish but we won’t see him again if he goes overseas.

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.02.18 17:27:16 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 29) : Unless we can broker a loan deal with sarries

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.02.18 17:27:43 by coolfusion Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : I just don’t see the point of Keegan Daniel being picked ahead of Tera with regards to the present and the future. I think Tera should be starting at 8 Keegan on the bench if necessary maybe a rotation policy should be implemented. In my analysis the twins are both blindside flankers so they should battle it out there. Here’s a team I think would do good –

    15. Lwazi Movo
    14. Cobus Van Wyk
    13. Luke Am
    12. Andre Esterhuisen/Marius Louw
    11. Sbu Nkosi
    10. Curwin Bosch
    9. Cam Wright
    8. Tera Mthembu
    7. Dan is out Tyler Paul
    6. Philip Van Der Walt but the Sharks need a fetcher
    5. Stephan Lewies
    4. Ruan Botha
    3. Meyer just not Thomas du Toit
    2. Akker Van Der Merwe
    1. Beast Mtawarirra

    16. Franco Marias
    17. Thomas du Toit
    18. Hyron Adrews/Jacques Vermuelen
    19. Keegan Daniel
    20. William Grant
    21. Rob Du Preez
    22. Marius Louw/Andre Esterhuisen

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.02.18 17:33:00 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 28) : I just don’t think either of those twins are Number 8s I’ve analysed their play and I just see two blindside flankers who should battle each other for the the number 7 jersey. Tera and Keegan are true Number 8s

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.02.18 17:37:46 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 31) : Keegan is still way ahead of Tera his awareness, versatility,composure , speed to the breakdown. I like Tera but honestly he needs a very extended run to displace Keegan. We must get the Young blood in but realistically I don’t think he is there yet.

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.02.18 18:15:56 by coolfusion Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 32) : And Phillip? You leave out the best man for the job?

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.02.18 18:17:12 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 34) : I would say for now Keegan at 6 Phillip at 8

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.02.18 18:18:18 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 35) : Remember Keegan kanko?

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.02.18 18:19:21 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : Yes he is because he’s had a great career due to lots of game, look to the future how long will he be around for ? Keegan is like what 32/33 now and Tera is 26/27 look to the future. Tera should start at 8 or least have a rotation policy between the two. You can never leave Philip out, I didn’t leave him out but the Sharks do need to get a fetcher if that happens, Philip can play 7 if that happens

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.02.18 18:45:51 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 36) : Yes I do remember Keegan Kanko. I don’t think Philip is a natural 8 I see him more as a hybrid loose forward who can play 7 or 6 if the situation deems necessary

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.02.18 18:49:08 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @Richard (Comment 17) : Why do we have a four match tour and stormers have a three match tour, or do the stormers play the sunwolves away at a later date, which actually works in their favour. Anyone got a break down of all sa teams schedules ?

    I hear what your saying about the ozzy teams, super interested in seeing what happens with the stormers on saturday morning against the Tahs

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.02.18 21:19:08 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @Simz Cele (Comment 38) : Philip doesn’t have the ball skills for 8

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.02.18 21:55:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Tera is actually very good at the positional play expected from a number 8, e.g. assisting the fullback to cover the back when needed. My only concern with him is that he has lost a lot of speed

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.02.18 08:47:09 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Dan is even worse than Philip

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.02.18 08:47:37 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Hi Rob, now that I read these comments – must say Philip looked a bit out of sorts on Saturday…particularly when he had the bandage around his head 😆 but still a big fan of him though

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.02.18 09:18:44 by DuToit04 Reply

  • just a random question – I noticed our boys seemed quite tired in the last 15 mins or so of the game – is/was the altitude really such a big factor? if so, how would one prepare for something like that?

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.02.18 09:23:35 by DuToit04 Reply

  • @Bokhoring (Comment 41) : Exactly why he needs to convert his body and attitude to being a fetcher! Exactly what the sharks don’t have. He is low on the pecking order at the sharks and if he worked on his game in that department he would have an edge over most loose forwards at the sharks.

    I never understand why players who rarely start don’t re-invent themselves and bring something new into they game.

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.02.18 09:42:39 by Poisy Reply
  • @Simz Cele (Comment 31) : I like your team but tera is a passenger at the moment. His injuries didn’t help his cause. Looks like that kid from DHS who was they number 8 and captain should be a better bet to blood in

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.02.18 09:47:12 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 45) : That is a very good comment. Like you said, he is low in the order, but does have a massive amount of skill. If he starts to focus on gaining more fetcher skills, he would really add something to our starting lineup that we are missing. He is still young enough to be able to do this and he definitely is talented enough!

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.02.18 10:24:03 by HeinF Reply

  • @Poisy (Comment 46) : Poisy you talking about the blonde kid? played SA schools?

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.02.18 16:00:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Exactly. That’s why I say I see him as a hybrid loose forward who can play both 6/7 but is obviously more of a 7

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.02.18 16:10:07 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @Poisy (Comment 46) : I think it’s too early. Let’s give the kid time to grow into his success he has to earn the jersey via junior structures first

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.02.18 16:13:45 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @HeinF (Comment 47) : I kind of agree with that if he can have 1 or 2 steals in a game like Kieran Read that would be great but I don’t think he should be converted to more of a fetcher

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.02.18 16:18:43 by Simz Cele Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 48) : Pepsi Buthelezi? Hardly a blonde 🙂

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.02.18 16:39:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 Ok I was thinking of the Blonde loose forward but i think he played 7

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.02.18 21:03:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 44) :

    Move to Jo’burg, train in Durban.

  • Comment 54, posted at 23.02.18 04:16:02 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 48) : :mrgreen: lmfao

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.02.18 06:47:57 by Poisy Reply
  • @Simz Cele (Comment 50) : Why? Frans steyn never did that neither has curwin. Those are the same structures that lost us Warren whitely btw. The kid is good enough they should blood him in now and learn the game.

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.02.18 06:50:17 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 56) : True but he isn’t one of them bow is he? If he was head and shoulders above his competition you wouldn’t be having this discussion. He would be the fist choice. I still think that he hasn’t shown enough to make people sit up and pay attention. Look at Am. Most of the country started buzzing when he came onstage. That’s the kind of guy you FasTrack.

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.02.18 07:06:30 by coolfusion Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : Dylan Richardson 😀

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.02.18 08:53:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • I wonder whether the dream team in Durbs have considered a Georgian prop, tough as a Tbilisi nail, maybe one of them can be tempted to the East coast

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.02.18 07:55:13 by SeanJeff Reply
  • @SeanJeff (Comment 59) : Unless you can compete with French cash, there’s no chance unfortunately.

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.02.18 09:56:30 by McLovin Reply

  • The Waratahs just showed how to win, even if your scrum is smashed all game.

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.02.18 13:00:54 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 61) : Stormers chucked away.

  • Comment 62, posted at 24.02.18 16:19:48 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 62) : Ja, some dodgy play at the end but the Waratahs still had to go and win it. We didn’t manage this and used our scrum issues as an excuse.

  • Comment 63, posted at 24.02.18 16:29:55 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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