Keegan leads Sharks XV in White River

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 7 Apr 2018 at 08:52

The Sharks XV are playing a warm up game against the Pumas in White River today. Veteran Keegan Daniel leads a team that combines a number of experienced stalwarts with a core of exciting youth.

Super Rugby experience up front comes in the form of lock Gideon Keogelenberg (albeit just one cap), flank Wian Vosloo and the vastly-seasoned Daniel at number 8. A young front row comprises Jordan Els and Khutha Mchunu on either side of Kerron van Vuuren, with big Andrew Evans partnering Koegies in the second row. Kwanda Dimaza completes the loose trio, wearing the number 7 jersey,

Another real grey-beard starts at 9 in Michael Claasens, paired with a flyhalf (Dan Visagie) who is young enough to be one of his (many) children. Vice-captain Johan Deysel partners Wayno Visagie in midfield, with Ilunga Mukendi and Morne Joubert the wingers. Another real youngster, Aphelele Fasi, is at fullback.

Jeremy Ward is ready for action again and will feature off an extended bench, along with Bandisa Ndlovu – who featured for the SHarks at flank in last year’s Currie Cup – but is now making the switch to loosehead prop.

Sharks XV: 15 Aphelele Fasi, 14 Morne Joubert, 13 Alwayno Visagie, 12 Johan Dyesel (v capt), 11 Ilunga Mukendi, 10 Danrich Visagie, 9 Michael Claassens, 8 Keegan Daniel (capt), 7 Kwanda Dimaza, 6 Wian Vosloo, 5 Andrew Evans, 4 Gideon Koegelenberg, 3 Khutha Mchunu, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Jordan Els
Subs: 16 Andrew du Plessis, 17 Bandisa Ndlovu, 18 JP Smith, 19 Rikus Zwart, 20 William Squires, 21 Grant Williams, 22 Jeremy Ward, 23 Courtney Winnaar, 24 Neil Otto


  • not great depth or quality in our reserve team

    I guess thats the case when the first team is on tour

    @Rob: where is Ross’ younger brother the loose forward ?

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.04.18 20:56:12 by revolverocelot Reply
  • Kegan out of favour?

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.04.18 19:31:15 by Loosehead Reply
  • @Loosehead (Comment 2) : out of favour at the first team right now yes. our best loosies right now are jldp, dan and ginger IMHO

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.04.18 23:49:40 by revolverocelot Reply
  • Anyone know what happened in this game?

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.04.18 07:05:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 4) : We won 50 – 33

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.04.18 08:49:01 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Jake White also was not a Keegan fan.

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.04.18 10:01:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Wonder if Keegan was punished for his reckless thow-in some weeks back, by not being selected to go on tour, and if he will be back in the mix on the teams return?

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.04.18 11:26:44 by stevovo Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 7) : Well he was playing quite recklessly so if i was coach he would have been. He can be good but can also be very costly

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.04.18 12:02:13 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 5) : Thanks…that sounds pretty good…

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.04.18 12:45:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Eish I recognise max 10 names.

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.04.18 13:16:06 by KingCheetah Reply

  • @KingCheetah (Comment 10) : New dawn, fresh faces

    looking forward to watching the SS rugby challenge on tv, and actually seeing if any of these unfamiliar names have any greater potential.

    No use recruiting like wp and bulls and ending up in financial disarray.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.04.18 17:30:06 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @stevovo (Comment 7) : I think the tour might have been unfortunately timed for him. Else I would like to see if Rob is as neutral and consistent in disciplining everyone including his kids. Not that I’ve seen any of them make such blatant brainfarts lately.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.04.18 17:49:56 by coolfusion Reply

  • @KingCheetah (Comment 10) : yes lots of youngsters in that team.Will be interesting to see how they go.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.04.18 18:29:29 by JD Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 7) : @SheldonK (Comment 8) : @coolfusion (Comment 12) : not sure if Keegan will be playing Super rugby as I think with the youngsters fit and ready to play RdP Snr will use them rather than Keegan.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.04.18 18:32:13 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 14) : I think keegs has learned the error of his ways, his still going to be useful.

    we will need his experience, I would definitely pick him ahead of tyler paul on the flank, cause Im a huge fan of paul, but his inexperience at the flank has been shown.

    Injuries happen, we may yet need keegs. still feel the best we have for our gameplan is jldp and ginger on the flanks, dan at 8, and vermuelan on the bench for impact.

    not writing keegs off just yet

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.04.18 22:46:59 by revolverocelot Reply

  • glad we still have morne joubert around, but his too good to just stay in the back ground, eventually his going to leave If he doesnt get a opportunity.

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.04.18 23:54:07 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 11) : Agreed, the exposure the Cheetahs fringe players got last year playing CC during the Pro14, should stand them in good stead.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.04.18 09:16:05 by KingCheetah Reply

  • @JD (Comment 13) : Agreed JD, I am keen to see if the Cheetahs youngsters that got lots of exposure in the latter stages of the CC, can use that experience to their advantage.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.04.18 09:17:37 by KingCheetah Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 15) : I feel we need to use guys like Paul, Vermuelen and even Dan DuPreez as our lock/loose forward ptions on the bench. We need guys that are mobile but can also provide some grunt later in the game.
    My ideal would be 6. Van Der Walt 7. JL DuPreez 8. D DuPreez with Paul, Vermuelen on the bench

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.04.18 10:50:22 by SheldonK Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 15) : also ot writing him off but think he will only play Super rugby as injury cover.

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.04.18 12:12:34 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : You are forgetting Mthembu,he will be first choice at no 8.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.04.18 12:29:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 21) : Yeh wouldnt be my choice hey, just personal pref. Just dont think he is the same after all the injuries. Id rather back Vosloo or Droste as i see more potential there

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.04.18 12:38:54 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : Good point

    another reason we have really underperformed thus far is our lock and loose forward effectiveness has been really poor.

    at loosie there have been many many injury disruptions and those that stepped up into the team were shockingly poor: keegs, terra, paul cause of inexperience (way more effective at 4 lock), vermualen has been inconsistent, has droste played ? vosloo did ok I guess.

    Lock on the other hand, no injuries thus far, but anemic performances all round, im not angry at the guys, but their performance might have because botha, lewies, hyron andrew are all 5. gideon looks like a 4 but havnt seen him play much.

    We failed to replace Ettian oosthuisen me thinks and its costing us. play dan or Paul at 4 in my humble opinion.

    all our issues stem from a weakness at Tight head though, tank will come right but in awhile, and we are not playing ross or johnny so you cant really expect them to kill people in the scrum with no form created by game time.

    Just My two cents though. a lot more too it I bet.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.04.18 14:31:47 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 23) : Yeh im kinda on the same wave length. The combinations we have put out whilst playing well in patches just dont seem to gel properly. Id love to see Paul or even Vermuelen at lock with Botha and then Van Der Walt, Jean-Luc, Dan in the loose trio. The modern game is about speed and those players still being able to provide grunt work. And all of Botha, Vermuelen, DuPreez etc are all lineout options

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.04.18 15:28:47 by SheldonK Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 23) : @SheldonK (Comment 24) : I havent watched the games yet but over the last 2 weeks I did not read one negative comment about Thaomas Du Toit scrumming. How was he again st the Kiwi sides?

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.04.18 16:10:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 25) : Adquate. Which is a step in the right direction.

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.04.18 17:33:43 by coolfusion Reply

  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : agreed tank is holding his own for the most part, but things fall apart if beast doesnt start, so thats concerning.

    its not only tank, Juan schoeman hasnt transferred his good currie cup form.

    we likely would have been better off starting tank on the bench as tight head cover from the start and slowly making him number one tight head. ross and johnny are actual good players if given the chance and could have held up that side of the scrum with tank coming on in the last 15min to clean up.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.04.18 21:44:36 by revolverocelot Reply

  • @revolverocelot (Comment 27) : “agreed tank is holding his own for the most part, but things fall apart if beast doesnt start, so thats concerning.” thats an interesting statement / observation and makes me wonder where the real problem is then – thight head or loose head or both, from that observation it seems that one must act as a crutch for the other, so Beast is Thomas’s crutch while Thomas must be whoever replaces Beasts.

    Who would you start against Bulls this weekend?

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.04.18 08:45:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : I think we can expect a pretty similar team to the one that played the Canes. Think if fit Akker may come onto the bench and possible changes at wings but thats about it.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.04.18 09:19:48 by SheldonK Reply

  • We either need Coenie back fast so that Tom can go back to covering loosehead, or we need to get a new loose head. Juan has been mostly useless since he joined us. Or how about giving that black youngster (unfortunately I can’t remember his name now) more game time?

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.04.18 09:28:48 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : I also think we’ll see Akker back this week. If we have a solid lead against the Bulls in the 2nd half I would give Louw some time on the field as AE can’t keep going at it like he is week in week out(I know we have a bye after the Strormers match). I’d like him fresh for the Stormers game to run those centres the cape media was dubbing as future Springboks just a year ago to shreds. I see Egon Seconds is the referee for our match this weekend.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.04.18 10:15:34 by Quintin Reply

  • @Quintin (Comment 31) : I think Egon is one of the more decent refs in SA at the moment. Probably because he is one of the only refs at the moment in SA to have played top rugby

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.04.18 11:47:41 by KingRiaan Reply

  • Once again I’m less concerned about the positions (which I’ll assume won’t see much change) rather the overall team pulling together showing the discipline and executing their training. The signs so far are encouraging but I don’t feel these guys are a unit yet.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.04.18 13:47:26 by coolfusion Reply


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